George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

justjess

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People WORK HARD for the things they have earned: cars to get them to jobs, houses to raise their children, business to provide for the family and create jobs for others. NO ONE should be allowed to take that away from them, and NO ONE should have to put themselves at risk of murder just to guard their business. NO ONE should be running rampant in the streets out of control and burning shit down. NO ONE should be threatening, pushing, or beating the police. The violent angry mobs have forced pushback. If protestors can't act like humans, then bring on the National Guard.
You have things so backwards... the police are spraying tear gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters. The attorney general of the United States ordered this so trump could take a picture. There dozens of similar examples. But I’m sure it’s just an innocent oversight on your end though, right?
 

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I don't see why people are so hung up on this. Insurrections and riots are like forces of nature, natural responses to an oppressive society. They aren't rational or reasonable, they do damage things and cause problems, at the same time the government which provokes them isn't rational or reasonable either. In fact, if you look at it from a global perspective, the authorities of the USA are causing a lot more harm in the world as a whole than any rioters (of course, most people are incapable of looking from anything but a national perspective).

Just like you wouldn't judge a hurricane, how can you judge these movements? They are a natural effect of certain types of causes. Societies don't function without outbreaks of unrest, it's a part of the historical process. "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction", the reaction to oppression being revolt. In a way the problem isn't that people are rioting, it's that the government has such superior military and police force that protest movements can't bring about any actual change.

The system is going to change, somehow. The current way of living is unsustainable and dominated by an elite with no concern for humanity. The process of change is going to be painful, and not just for those in power. To the extent that people are attached to the capitalist system in it's inhumanity and cruelty, they are going to experience the transition as difficult.

If people are so attached to law and order, then it could be argued that the USA is not in the right, having sponsored so many coups in Latin American countries and elsewhere, engaged in illegal wars, propped up Israel etc. If you're going to decry people acting in such disorderly ways, begin by standing up against your own government and the corporations it serves.
 

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Where have you been? Mobs come in from out of town or out of state and instigate violence. I don't care what color they are, the business owner have every right to be worried. Mock all you want, they are justified in their fear.

Yes, you regurgitated the 'blah blah blah have been setting fire to this country blah blah blah' talking point quite nicely. Aside from the few bad, the police have been saving people and helping to protect their hard-earned property for centuries. The majority of 'evil' corporations have been providing jobs, healthcare, and other benefits to those who wish to work, gain experience and education, and better themselves.

By the way, they are not 'your' or the anarchist's police stations, monuments, courthouses to burn down. They belong to WE, the people, and WE paid for them, so WE have a right to have them protected. There is no excuse or justification to destroy or burn anything. Until you understand this basic fundamental principle, you are literally the problem. If you want to live in lawless anarchy, move the hell out of the States. But don't expect the majority of law-abiding citizens to change the laws for you and accept violence and murder as the solution or the norm.
I’m part of we the people aren’t I? My taxes don’t also pay for them? I never once said violence or murder was the solution to anything - keep throwing out straw men though.

im also not mocking. I am legitimately concerned that these people are going to incite the violence they are claiming to be against, themselves.
 
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I don't see why people are so hung up on this. Insurrections and riots are like forces of nature, natural responses to an oppressive society. They aren't rational or reasonable, they do damage things and cause problems, at the same time the government which provokes them isn't rational or reasonable either. In fact, if you look at it from a global perspective, the authorities of the USA are causing a lot more harm in the world as a whole than any rioters (of course, most people are incapable of looking from anything but a national perspective).

Just like you wouldn't judge a hurricane, how can you judge these movements? They are a natural effect of certain types of causes. Societies don't function without outbreaks of unrest, it's a part of the historical process. "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction", the reaction to oppression being revolt. In a way the problem isn't that people are rioting, it's that the government has such superior military and police force that protest movements can't bring about any actual change.

The system is going to change, somehow. The current way of living is unsustainable and dominated by an elite with no concern for humanity. The process of change is going to be painful, and not just for those in power. To the extent that people are attached to the capitalist system in it's inhumanity and cruelty, they are going to experience the transition as difficult.

If people are so attached to law and order, then it could be argued that the USA is not in the right, having sponsored so many coups in Latin American countries and elsewhere, engaged in illegal wars, propped up Israel etc. If you're going to decry people acting in such disorderly ways, begin by standing up against your own government and the corporations it serves.
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I don't see why people are so hung up on this. Insurrections and riots are like forces of nature, natural responses to an oppressive society. They aren't rational or reasonable, they do damage things and cause problems, at the same time the government which provokes them isn't rational or reasonable either. In fact, if you look at it from a global perspective, the authorities of the USA are causing a lot more harm in the world as a whole than any rioters (of course, most people are incapable of looking from anything but a national perspective).

Just like you wouldn't judge a hurricane, how can you judge these movements? They are a natural effect of certain types of causes. Societies don't function without outbreaks of unrest, it's a part of the historical process. "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction", the reaction to oppression being revolt. In a way the problem isn't that people are rioting, it's that the government has such superior military and police force that protest movements can't bring about any actual change.

The system is going to change, somehow. The current way of living is unsustainable and dominated by an elite with no concern for humanity. The process of change is going to be painful, and not just for those in power. To the extent that people are attached to the capitalist system in it's inhumanity and cruelty, they are going to experience the transition as difficult.

If people are so attached to law and order, then it could be argued that the USA is not in the right, having sponsored so many coups in Latin American countries and elsewhere, engaged in illegal wars, propped up Israel etc. If you're going to decry people acting in such disorderly ways, begin by standing up against your own government and the corporations it serves.
these people are government boot lickers

always have been, they are being fully exposed right now.
 
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There is enough evidence that the phenomenon of racism is completely wrong.

the scamdemic and lockdowns left people to die in their homes with heart attack, undiagnosed cancer and suicide due to despair and poverty. a false flag police violence was a good red herring. in a few days, people forgot that all their money, their livelihood was destroyed by a runny nose virus.everything is clear enough. there are not many issues to discuss.
 
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You cheered on the violent mobs in the deleted thread, and part of that violence has been murder, beatings, and terrorism. If you're going to cheer for them, then you are also cheering for the results of their actions. In this thread you're all for burning buildings down which IS violence. It's impossible to be for burning down buildings but against violence.

Its impossible to be for the police state but against violence. Wish you'd listen to your own advice.
 
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When the right-wing is more concerned about the businesses being demolished more than human lives being ended. Lol
and claim to be Christian at the same time. :D

I've put out a request to @Lyfe or any other wannabe Christian to show me the sermon that says property is more valuable than human life

These people really live in an upside down world.
 
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You have things so backwards... the police are spraying tear gas and rubber bullets at peaceful protesters. The attorney general of the United States ordered this so trump could take a picture. There dozens of similar examples. But I’m sure it’s just an innocent oversight on your end though, right?
It is normal in case of a state of emergency where people burn the country. You have to stop the "peaceful" protests when the protests derailed across the country.

I don't see why people are so hung up on this. Insurrections and riots are like forces of nature, natural responses to an oppressive society. They aren't rational or reasonable, they do damage things and cause problems, at the same time the government which provokes them isn't rational or reasonable either. In fact, if you look at it from a global perspective, the authorities of the USA are causing a lot more harm in the world as a whole than any rioters (of course, most people are incapable of looking from anything but a national perspective).

Just like you wouldn't judge a hurricane, how can you judge these movements? They are a natural effect of certain types of causes. Societies don't function without outbreaks of unrest, it's a part of the historical process. "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction", the reaction to oppression being revolt. In a way the problem isn't that people are rioting, it's that the government has such superior military and police force that protest movements can't bring about any actual change.

The system is going to change, somehow. The current way of living is unsustainable and dominated by an elite with no concern for humanity. The process of change is going to be painful, and not just for those in power. To the extent that people are attached to the capitalist system in it's inhumanity and cruelty, they are going to experience the transition as difficult.

If people are so attached to law and order, then it could be argued that the USA is not in the right, having sponsored so many coups in Latin American countries and elsewhere, engaged in illegal wars, propped up Israel etc. If you're going to decry people acting in such disorderly ways, begin by standing up against your own government and the corporations it serves.
the state's response to this is also natural. states don't sit down and watch the burning of the country. they respond harder and harder. and then they have a good excuse to increase the powers of the police.

the principle of determinism doesn't end with protesters.
 
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There is enough evidence that the phenomenon of racism is completely wrong.

the scamdemic and lockdowns left people to die in their homes with heart attack, undiagnosed cancer and suicide due to despair and poverty. a false flag police violence was a good red herring. in a few days, people forgot that all their money, their livelihood was destroyed by a runny nose virus.everything is clear enough. there are not many issues to discuss.
Yeah a few days after the CDC website was updated to say the fatality rate is 0.1% among all age groups, and 35% of people will never have symptoms. Seeing people with their masks on from media brainwashing committing violence against the innocent from media brainwashing is quite the picture...
 
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these people are government boot lickers

always have been, they are being fully exposed right now.

all the "we are against the NWO" was one big fucking lie. These tools of the elite are being shown for what they always have been, and I maintain a lot of people were simply using "conspiracy theories" and "opposition to the NWO" as convenient tools to hide their prejudices behind.

Who knew the "troof movement" was simply a tool to churn out fascists.
 
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Yeah, same with helping the poor/homeless people. Don’t want to name a certain member from here lol
I honestly believe those using Gods name to commit evil will face the most severe wrath and punishment.

That clown had innocent protesters removed by flashbombs, tear gas, and rubber bullets to stage a photo op, with him holding up a bible. I mean the irony.
 

justjess

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It is normal in case of a state of emergency where people burn the country. You have to stop the "peaceful" protests when the protests derailed across the country.


the state's response to this is also natural. states don't sit down and watch the burning of the country. they respond harder and harder. and then they have a good excuse to increase the powers of the police.

the principle of determinism doesn't end with protesters.
There is no justification for using tear gas on peaceful protesters. That is what incited the violence in many places. Not the other way around.
 

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You cheered on the violent mobs in the deleted thread, and part of that violence has been murder, beatings, and terrorism. If you're going to cheer for them, then you are also cheering for the results of their actions. In this thread you're all for burning buildings down which IS violence. It's impossible to be for burning down buildings but against violence.
That’s the same logic as SCOTUS which says corporations are people. They are not. Sorry. Violence is shooting peaceful protesters with tear gas and rubber bullets. Violence is suffocating someone to death during an arrest for a misdemeanor. Violence is many things, breaking windows in response to a tyrannical oppressive government it is not.

for the millionth time they should leave small businesses alone. They shouldn’t be hurting people. I’m not going to cry about a police station when that same police station has been committing actual violence against actual humans for uNtold amount of years. Even as they are protesting against that violence peacefully.
 
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There is no justification for using tear gas on peaceful protesters.
When they are told to disperse, they don't disperse. there is a state of emergency and you have to put out the fire.
Insurrections and riots are like forces of nature, natural responses to an oppressive society.
states also have nature, like people.
and these people are not even aware that they strengthen the state and the police. I shared the contact tracking news.
 
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