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Thanks for explaining this. Hope lurking stans will get it through their heads and stop screeching about oppar and unnies vocals. Have heard that breathing noises are recorded too but don't know if it's true.
Yup if you watch 2-3 performances of the same song they all have the same mistakes, same breath sounds and high notes always sound the same lol.
 

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B*s=SK gov't sellouts, political pawns etc.. And why is this expo being discussed like this when it's years away??
I just want to know what the final straw was, it's kind of amazing they actually demanded and got a "break" despite the pressures on their heads.

And that guy said that the other cities that applied don't have BTS and the economic windfall of their deranged fans so Busan should be picked. The concert is in this October to win the bid.

There's no way that in 8 years they don't drag them out by their follicles and make them sing 'Dope' LOL
 

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A lot of people say this too. The visuals aren't as good as previous idols either. I think virtual idols will be the future because of this demand for perfection. They're asking for their own replacement and will cheer when it arrives.
Virtual Idols already exist and they are called Vocaloids. Haven't heard of Hatsune Miku before??. A3spa's concept is nothing new its just LSM stealing from Japan's pop culture for the upteenth time.
Here a Japanese singer in 2014 doing what A3spa will probably be doing in the future singing with a virtual avatar. Only thing Korea will do is tweak the concept a little and give the virtual avatars human sounding voices rather than fake Anime like voices and boom a new concept is born. This is what SK has been doing since hallyu wave started to blow up.
I am convinced LSM is nothing more than a hard core Anime Otaku lolll
 
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Wow, they're not even trying to hide it with those lyrics. Very disturbing! The word "charmer" can also be related to snakes..like a snake charmer perhaps.
I agree with you, I think there are spells...the boombayah bp song was a good example.
Some of the lyrics to that song show how dumb it really is,
"Now gotta step on it, what else can I do?
I'm young and fearless, man
Middle finger up, F-U pay me
90's baby, I pump up the jam
Step on it, step on it, oppa-ya lambo
Today yours and mine, our youth's a gamble
Don't dare to stop me, if anyone gets in my way
I'ma go, brrrr, Rambo"

I laugh when fans say kpop songs are deeper and more meaningful than the west..
Most kpop music in general is not very good. However, I'll notice no matter how much you hated a kpop song initially, after a couple of listens you'll like it and after a few more listens you're hooked. Like you said "addictive."
This is essem's formula nowadays. N*t and A3spa fans will listen to their noise music on loop until it grows on them and then it becomes one of their fav songs of all time. The fandoms are so blind they will forcefully stream songs on 10 devices they don't even like. Saw Ratmies doing the same when PTD sropped. those ratmies who didn't liked the song were harassed and forced to apologize. These oppalogists are crazy
 
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Yup if you watch 2-3 performances of the same song they all have the same mistakes, same breath sounds and high notes always sound the same lol.
Stans are always in the comments saying slayyyy, and they have the best vocals. I think a lot of fans haven't heard good singing. I've heard excellent singers from many cultures, not just the West. Kpop and pop music just sounds the same, and it's no wonder most people don't listen to it.
 
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I just want to know what the final straw was, it's kind of amazing they actually demanded and got a "break" despite the pressures on their heads.

And that guy said that the other cities that applied don't have BTS and the economic windfall of their deranged fans so Busan should be picked. The concert is in this October to win the bid.

There's no way that in 8 years they don't drag them out by their follicles and make them sing 'Dope' LOL
Sadly, Armys will be there with their families listening to them sing. Most will move on, but some will come back for nostalgia. There were soooo many 45+ people and men at the txt concert.
 
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This is essem's formula nowadays. N*t and A3spa fans will listen to their noise music on loop until it grows on them and then it becomes one of their fav songs of all time. The fandoms are so blind they will forcefully stream songs on 10 devices they don't even like. Saw Ratmies doing the same when PTD sropped. those ratmies who didn't liked the song were harassed and forced to apologize. These oppalogists are crazy
Ptd is one of their worst songs but anyone who says that is harassed and forced back into the hive/fandom.
 

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Virtual Idols already exist and they are called Vocaloids. Haven't heard of Hatsune Miku before??. A3spa's concept is nothing new its just LSM stealing from Japan's pop culture for the upteenth time.
Here a Japanese singer in 2014 doing what A3spa will probably be doing in the future singing with a virtual avatar. Only thing Korea will do is tweak the concept a little and give the virtual avatars human sounding voices rather than fake Anime like voices and boom a new concept is born. This is what SK has been doing since hallyu wave started to blow up.
I am convinced LSM is nothing more than a hard core Anime Otaku lolll
yes i posted a video in the kpop thread about an al singer called Adam
 
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There's something wrong with txt's Bg. I noticed his energy was off during the concert. He couldn't finish the interview today and had to leave early.

 
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Virtual Idols already exist and they are called Vocaloids. Haven't heard of Hatsune Miku before??. A3spa's concept is nothing new its just LSM stealing from Japan's pop culture for the upteenth time.
Here a Japanese singer in 2014 doing what A3spa will probably be doing in the future singing with a virtual avatar. Only thing Korea will do is tweak the concept a little and give the virtual avatars human sounding voices rather than fake Anime like voices and boom a new concept is born. This is what SK has been doing since hallyu wave started to blow up.
I am convinced LSM is nothing more than a hard core Anime Otaku lolll
The CEOs for the big four all act like weaboos.
 

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Virtual Idols already exist and they are called Vocaloids. Haven't heard of Hatsune Miku??. A3spa's concept is nothing new its just LSM stealing from Japan's pop culture for the upteenth time.
Here a Japanese singer in 2014 doing what A3spa will probably be doing in the future singing with a virtual avatar which uses their voice.
I am convinced LSM is nothing more than an hard core Anime Otaku lolll
And to think that at first it was just a voice modification software. Where the artist, whose very first Vocaloid was Sakine Meiko, hence the figure (then came other Vocaloids, before being bought out). Then was born Miku, who had a lot of success, the people who bought it, do not know how, she became popular, he supposes, it was for that time. I think it's the futuristic design, compared to the old, more normal one. But anyway, as usual. When it's popular, they buy back, see use, a maximum, until in some cases, the transformed into programming, etc.
 
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And to think that at first it was just a voice modification software. Where the artist, whose very first Vocaloid was Sakine Meiko, hence the figure (then came other Vocaloids, before being bought out). Then was born Miku, who had a lot of success, the people who bought it, do not know how, she became popular, he supposes, it was for that time. I think it's the futuristic design, compared to the old, more normal one. But anyway, as usual. When it's popular, they buy back, see use, a maximum, until in some cases, the transformed into programming, etc.
Hatsune Miku set the stage for this more than the other vocaloids. She has many games and songs. The fandom is loyal to her, and she's had a bigger impact than most idols.
 

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And to think that at first it was just a voice modification software. Where the artist, whose very first Vocaloid was Sakine Meiko, hence the figure (then came other Vocaloids, before being bought out). Then was born Miku, who had a lot of success, the people who bought it, do not know how, she became popular, he supposes, it was for that time. I think it's the futuristic design, compared to the old, more normal one. But anyway, as usual. When it's popular, they buy back, see use, a maximum, until in some cases, the transformed into programming, etc.
Vtubers are the new most popular thing in Japan. I wonder how long it takes for SK to pick up on that trend and make it part of K-POP
 

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The CEOs for the big four all act like weaboos.
At the start when Korean drama industry was still in its immature stage they would make remakes of popular Japanese and Asian dramas. Some of their most popular dramas are adaptations of Japanese Mangas but most Koreaboos have no clue. Same thing happened with their pop music. 1st and 2nd gen K-POP groups were heavily inspired by Japanese idol and other music groups in terms of both sounds and fashion. Now starting third gen we started the trend of making idols look and act more and more like Anime characters. For 4th Gen the focus seemed to be on copying the vocaloids and Vtuber concept from Japan. Those who aren't ripping off Japan are looking towards America to figure out which trend to copy next
 

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Ptd is one of their worst songs but anyone who says that is harassed and forced back into the hive/fandom.
Ptd is their absolute worst song and I think singing/performing that crap over and over with pained smiles on their faces is what pushed them over the edge and that's why they took this semi permanent hiatus plus enlistment

That song is enough to fuck anybody up it's horrendous

Yn and NJ sold their musical creativity for more western validation and accolades with promises of military exemption and a grammy and after all those awful performances of ptd they still didn't get the grammy or exemption and that's what made them go on hiatus imo

And like them or not but yn and NJ are the creative ones in the group with songwriting

From good songs like run,NO,spring day to butter pop garbage butter and ptd
 

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Ptd is their absolute worst song and I think singing/performing that crap over and over with pained smiles on their faces is what pushed them over the edge and that's why they took this semi permanent hiatus plus enlistment

That song is enough to fuck anybody up it's horrendous
Yup, I think that was the final nail in the coffin. I've listened to a lot of music in my lifetime and I put ptd in the top 3 worst songs ever. Absolutely dreadful!
 
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At the start when Korean drama industry was still in its immature stage they would make remakes of popular Japanese and Asian dramas. Some of their most popular dramas are adaptations of Japanese Mangas but most Koreaboos have no clue. Same thing happened with their pop music. 1st and 2nd gen K-POP groups were heavily inspired by Japanese idol and other music groups in terms of both sounds and fashion. Now starting third gen we started the trend of making idols look and act more and more like Anime characters. For 4th Gen the focus seemed to be on copying the vocaloids and Vtuber concept from Japan. Those who aren't ripping off Japan are looking towards America to figure out which trend to copy next
Why don't companies look internally for the next big trend? They only copy everyone else's work, but have a lot of untapped talent. America movies like the Money Heist are being remade, but that didn't do well with audiences.
 
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Ptd is their absolute worst song and I think singing/performing that crap over and over with pained smiles on their faces is what pushed them over the edge and that's why they took this semi permanent hiatus plus enlistment

That song is enough to fuck anybody up it's horrendous

Yn and NJ sold their musical creativity for more western validation and accolades with promises of military exemption and a grammy and after all those awful performances of ptd they still didn't get the grammy or exemption and that's what made them go on hiatus imo

And like them or not but yn and NJ are the creative ones in the group with songwriting

From good songs like run,NO,spring day to butter pop garbage butter and ptd
That song pushed me out of the fandom. I was teetering on the edge and that was the last straw. Imagine performing that over and over and hearing it in your sleep. The group probably asked if they were serious when they were asked to sing it.
 
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He looks sick and like he was forced to work when he should have been resting. It seems like t*t are declining health wise at a much faster rate than b*s did. They all look unwell to me and over worked. Every time I hear about them they're doing another cb or solo activity. And their leader, Soobin looks like he dropped a significant amount of weight on an already thin frame. His neck looks like it can barely hold his head now.
The only one with a normal body weight is Hk and they're bullying him to start dieting. The others are underweight and too small for their height. I used to worry about Yj the most, but Bg and Sb are declining faster than him. Sb is 6'2, and I wouldn't believe it if someone said he was over 130 lbs. His frame is large but he has no meat left. There's almost no muscle on his arms and legs.
 
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