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arhur12

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Vocal range can be exercised a bit (like max 1 or 2 tones) but it's a natural feature, so it's wrong to use it as a comparison. You can't become a soprano with training. So saying that Jungk0ok's vocals are weak because of that... doesn't make sense. He usually uses mixed voice instead of belting, it's a preference. Plus, mixed voice is actually the best technique in terms of health and strain for the vocal cords.
The problem with the latest songs of Beetees is the wrong range, they are crazy high in the range you cannot use falsetto or head voice because it would sound weird.
Just write a comfy song already!

Enhyp3n aren't heard often singing to be honest, I'd like more occasions to have a better understanding.

At3ez are good for being able to sing live but the main vocalist is a little bit repetitive imo. Always sings with the same angry like attitude.
No I am talking about breath support. Jkay's range is G2-Bb5 which is very good for a male vocalist but within that range he only supports upto E4. Support helps you sing the note in a healthier way without straining your voice. They ranked idol vocalists based on how healthy their vocal technique was but even then they said BT5 should not be hated on for having weak breath support. They have stylistic singing technique so what many people actually prefer it over the more technical classically trained style of singing. They just need to learn how to take care of their voice so they can have a long stable career.
 

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No I am talking about breath support. Jkay's range is G2-Bb5 which is very good for a male vocalist but within that range he only supports upto E4. Support helps you sing the note in a healthier way without straining your voice. They ranked idol vocalists based on how healthy their vocal technique was but even then they said BT5 should not be hated on for having weak breath support. They have stylistic singing technique so what many people actually prefer it over the more technical classically trained style of singing. They just need to learn how to take care of their voice so they can have a long stable career.
Yes, so it means he doesn't do belting but changes earlier to mixed voice instead. It depends on the range of your chest voice basically. However he can be heard going past E4 with chest voice.
I guess it's a matter of opinions in the end.
 

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why you say so? He doesn't really look awful maybe just few years older than his age : (
If he looks awful then the 99% of the world population is awful
I wasnt talkin 'bout his beauty, but he looks like that with all the makeup, PSs and shit, he looks older than his age, and worn out, as if he didnt sleep for a week, he's known on being an alcoholic and do heavy drugs too, he loses weight really fast, and not only from the crazy ass diets or hardcore workouts but he takes dieting pills too, and last but not least energy boosters, imagine what can the combo of all this crap do to a human, and im not talkin 'bout him only but alot of other celebrities, all this causes major health issues.
And not to forget he's a bad influence on his fans, i saw alot of them trying to follow his extrem diet and buy the diet pills too. And they give a fuck about their self all they want is be like Oppar, it's this bad. He's fucking up his own ass and millions other.
 

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I don't worry much about his weight because he seems to gain and lose in cycles. The ones always super thin are more worrysome for me
Gaining and losing weight repeatedly all through the year is called yo-yo dieting and it's extremely unhealthy. Jkay is known to starve himself and take diet pills to drop weight fast before comebacks.
why you say so? He doesn't really look awful maybe just few years older than his age : (
If he looks awful then the 99% of the world population is awful
Interesting that your username means "girl" in Japanese when you could have used onna no hito 女の人. So I'm making the guess that you're a child.
Anyway, mentioning 99% of the population in comparison to a prematurely aging alleged druggie is going too far, don't you think?

Let me show you what natural aging looks like..
This is a famous Korean actor that is in his early 40s. His name is Kang dong won. T@e went to his movie premier recently and looked less youthful than him. Like what the hell is going on with b*s??! Their fast lifestyles are definitely catching up with them and they're only in their 20s.
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Using the actor I mentioned to compare further. This is him when he was around jkay and T@e's age. You can see from the current pics I provided he is aging naturally and likely has had no ps. imgonline-com-ua-twotoone-EMYkUBSmxL2j.jpg
Then we have jkay..
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Even with a ton of plastic surgery and makeup, Jkay still always looks tired, aged beyond his years, and unwell. If you can't see the difference between him now and just a few years ago then I don't know what to tell ya. He is declining at a fast rate.
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Number 82? That's pretty crap. They should aim his solo at outer space, maybe he'll find his audience there.
I was trying to be positive lol. If his single is the only one to do this well, the rest are screwed and need to rethink disbandment if they want a career. They can be clowns in variety shows and that pays, but the heights they reached as industry leaders is over.
 

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Yeah, you're right, very malnourished... no wonder they lack stamina that much.
I was talking about stages because essem doesn't usually use the lead voice on the backing track so you hear a single voice and it makes a very good impression because it feels live. The problem is: they use the same or max 2 versions of it! So if you watch more than one performance you will hear that they hit the notes in the exact same way. Plus, you don't hear the "movement" in their voices. I mean, if they're doing something like a push-up while singing or a particular hip twist, you should hear at least a flaw in the note, some variation.

I've seen Taem1n live in Japan some years ago and he was amazing, I can't remember a single mistake. I wasn't that near to the stage so I can't really tell if that perfection was because of lipsync. It is highly possible because if they do it for tv stages, they need it for full live concerts even more.
BUT SHINe3 are very good singers. Taemin is a great singer, nobody can tell otherwise... if they do, they suffer superiority complex! lol

I genuinely believe that almost every artist at essem is very well vocal trained. But their singing usually lacks identity imo. Their style is always the same.
I think the best vocal coaches help you to preserve the quality of your voice as much as they can, it's a matter of equilibrium between technique and color. I don't think that anybody should go for the perfect technique trying to erase their uniqueness.
The thing is: perfect vocals, almost no strain, less uniqueness or flawed vocals, a bit of strain, more charisma?

Aespa too seem to have good possibilities but I've seen a lot of lipsync poorly done... like they forget they should keep their mouth open more...
Sm trained their artists very well, it's right
 

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Gaining and losing weight repeatedly all through the year is called yo-yo dieting and it's extremely unhealthy. Jkay is known to starve himself and take diet pills to drop weight fast before comebacks.
Interesting that your username means "girl" in Japanese when you could have used onna no hito 女の人. So I'm making the guess that you're a child.
Anyway, mentioning 99% of the population in comparison to a prematurely aging alleged druggie is going too far, don't you think?

Let me show you what natural aging looks like..
This is a famous Korean actor that is in his early 40s. His name is Kang dong won. T@e went to his movie premier recently and looked less youthful than him. Like what the hell is going on with b*s??! Their fast lifestyles are definitely catching up with them and they're only in their 20s.
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Using the actor I mentioned to compare further. This is him when he was around jkay and T@e's age. You can see from the current pics I provided he is aging naturally and likely has had no ps. View attachment 77141
Then we have jkay..
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Even with a ton of plastic surgery and makeup, Jkay still always looks tired, aged beyond his years, and unwell. If you can't see the difference between him now and just a few years ago then I don't know what to tell ya. He is declining at a fast rate.
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i think JK just have to change his lifestyle and he would be fine again
 

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Gaining and losing weight repeatedly all through the year is called yo-yo dieting and it's extremely unhealthy. Jkay is known to starve himself and take diet pills to drop weight fast before comebacks.
Interesting that your username means "girl" in Japanese when you could have used onna no hito 女の人. So I'm making the guess that you're a child.
Anyway, mentioning 99% of the population in comparison to a prematurely aging alleged druggie is going too far, don't you think?

Let me show you what natural aging looks like..
This is a famous Korean actor that is in his early 40s. His name is Kang dong won. T@e went to his movie premier recently and looked less youthful than him. Like what the hell is going on with b*s??! Their fast lifestyles are definitely catching up with them and they're only in their 20s.
View attachment 77139
View attachment 77140
Using the actor I mentioned to compare further. This is him when he was around jkay and T@e's age. You can see from the current pics I provided he is aging naturally and likely has had no ps. View attachment 77141
Then we have jkay..
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Even with a ton of plastic surgery and makeup, Jkay still always looks tired, aged beyond his years, and unwell. If you can't see the difference between him now and just a few years ago then I don't know what to tell ya. He is declining at a fast rate.
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Jk is a sad case. He looks and behaves like a drug addict with serious mental health problems. So many clips of him at his ”job” like a shooting or interview where he looks so off weird eye movement and gestures and other members like Jin must keep and eye on him. They keep slapping him och pinching him which fans assume is fan service, but it really is to keep him in check. When things go that far you know a person has serious problems. But honestly when someone was sent to Pedo Bang at a young age it would be surprising if things turned out differently.
 
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Laura755y

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Jk is a sad case. He looks and behaves like a drug addict with serious mental health problems. So many clips of him at his ”job” like a shooting or interview where he looks so off weird eye movement and gestures and other members like Jin must keep and eye on him. They keep slapping him och pinching him which fans assume is fan service, but it really is to keep him in check. When things go that far you know a person has serious problems. But honestly when someone was sent to Pedo Bang at a young age it would be surprising if things turned out differently.
That's so true, him and many ohers r'like this becuz of monsters like bang pedo fucker, and their fucked up parents, they truly fuck up them kids over and over, i truly hope he leaves it all even if its so fkn hard, the whole ass industry is full of people like bang, if not worse.
 

arhur12

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Gaining and losing weight repeatedly all through the year is called yo-yo dieting and it's extremely unhealthy. Jkay is known to starve himself and take diet pills to drop weight fast before comebacks.
Interesting that your username means "girl" in Japanese when you could have used onna no hito 女の人. So I'm making the guess that you're a child.
Anyway, mentioning 99% of the population in comparison to a prematurely aging alleged druggie is going too far, don't you think?

Let me show you what natural aging looks like..
This is a famous Korean actor that is in his early 40s. His name is Kang dong won. T@e went to his movie premier recently and looked less youthful than him. Like what the hell is going on with b*s??! Their fast lifestyles are definitely catching up with them and they're only in their 20s.
View attachment 77139
View attachment 77140
Using the actor I mentioned to compare further. This is him when he was around jkay and T@e's age. You can see from the current pics I provided he is aging naturally and likely has had no ps. View attachment 77141
Then we have jkay..
View attachment 77142View attachment 77143
Even with a ton of plastic surgery and makeup, Jkay still always looks tired, aged beyond his years, and unwell. If you can't see the difference between him now and just a few years ago then I don't know what to tell ya. He is declining at a fast rate.
View attachment 77145
The actors look very good for their age in fact some idols look better than BTS members as well. X-0 members are all 2-3 years older than BT5 and they all look good for their age. BT5 destroyed their bodies and looks by adopting the western celebrity party lifestyle.
 
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That's so true, him and many ohers r'like this becuz of monsters like bang pedo fucker, and their fucked up parents, they truly fuck up them kids over and over, i truly hope he leaves it all even if its so fkn hard, the whole ass industry is full of people like bang, if not worse.
I posted about the executives who preyed on him. These people described how to make him relax, and how he would only relax around someone if the other person came along. He was purposely kept wary of strangers. Only once the green light was given and they were introduced did Jk relax around new people.
 
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The actors look very good for their age in fact some idols look better than BTS members as well. X-0 members are all 2-3 years older than BT5 and they all look good for their age. BT5 destroyed their bodies and looks by adopting the western celebrity party lifestyle.
Taemin's the same age as Jm and looks younger. They live faster and it shows. Only Jn, Rm and maybe Jh look their age. I've never seen that before. Black and Asian people age slower, but kpop artists age very quickly.
 

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I posted about the executives who preyed on him. These people described how to make him relax, and how he would only relax around someone if the other person came along. He was purposely kept wary of strangers. Only once the green light was given and they were introduced did Jk relax around new people.
Yeah i remember that, and thats how sick they are, not to forget make them kids do drugs, thats so bad fr.
 
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Yeah i remember that, and thats how sick they are, not to forget make them kids do drugs, thats so bad fr.
Those were probably used too. A former trainee said she was angry at a senior idol because he tried to give her drugs. She trusted him, but still declined, and later found out he had a drug scandal. That scared and pissed her off because she could have ended up on drugs too. He told her those were vitamins and supplements.
 
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