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Yes Taehyung have the potential to be a good singer but he ruined infact for lazyness
Everyone is releasing their album. Even sugu is releasing album now. But where is he?does he really think he can continue with that shows. Jm said he was shocked seeing v making song and how serious he is about his music and made many good songs while they are in hitaus , where are those songs?
 
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The fight between solo stans might become true. Bcz the jk Stans are trolling jm saying that he literally sound like goat meh meh lol and there is no value to become no.1 army are crazy but maknea line fans are way crazy especially jk v
I agree with Jkay Stans his fans and Hyb3 bought this No1 for him. When Sup3rm got that billboard No1 album ratmies were calling them cheaters for using bundles and multiple album versions to increase sales but for Like Crazy promo they used the exact same tactics.
 

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I don't think he is capable of running company. I saw interview where he said he wants express his life in that song and the next thing in interview you see he partying in club and drinking in mv. The thing is he got fame and money into his head, he just wasting money. He is confused and don't know where to go
To be honest he has always been the least musically inclined person in the group. He wrote and produced the least number of songs and even the songs where he was listed as a songwriter he had very little input. He was always running to Jkay or V for help. V and Jkay are the ones who members have praised for having good musicality. Whenever he was asked about his future plans he would sound confused and lost.
 

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It's interesting that I actually first "discovered" Betees, NOT AS SINGERS... but AS "COMEDIANS." I thought that they were a new bunch of 7 "stooges"... Korean edition...Haha!


Maybe that's why I find them funny even when they "sing..." lol


And Jm's distinctly off key voice...with Jisoo...the singing "dried flower..." Haha!

Wow I can't believe this in the last clip you can tell how bad JM actually is he can't even sing one word "Bogoshipda" properly. Jkay was good and J1n too was on-key when he sang the first time but JM voice cracked. Even J1soo sang better than him.
 
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I don't think idols should be dragged for bad vocals because an idol is different from your typical musician. Idols are entertainers and a lot of them even give up singing and shift to acting or modeling after they gain recognition. Look at Ch@ Eun woo or Yoona who barely do any musical stuff outside of their group comebacks.



However, JM is pursuing a solo career and in ratmys' own words "he provided them opportunities to mass stream and mass buy his album". It's pretty clear that Hyb3 and JM were aiming for that No1. If JM truly wants to be considered a global artist he should be taking vocal lessons rn. I know in the past not so talented singers have become popular but even the likes of Britney Spears and Selena Gomez can hold a note live and at least Britney and Selena fans have never claimed that their favourites were vocal goddesses. The reason why most people are hating on him is because ratmys have always overhyped his singing and now some from that fandom are claiming that he is on par with legends like MJ and Beyonce bcz he topped the billboard chart which is just going to make people hate him even more.
Most kpop idols should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Beyonce, MJ, Whitney, or Mariah Carey. It makes people hate them and no one takes them seriously.

Would a vocal coach be able to help him? It's been years, but he's gotten a lot worse. At least before the pandemic, he could sing ok in a normal range. High notes strained his voice. Do you think his company said anything about what happened? The rapline except for Sg didn't make waves. They're counting on Jm and Jk to keep the group alive during enlistment era.

Those idols are well trained. They didn't crack a smile or laugh when he was singing. Second and third gen would've been on the floor laughing.
 
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To be honest he has always been the least musically inclined person in the group. He wrote and produced the least number of songs and even the songs where he was listed as a songwriter he had very little input. He was always running to Jkay or V for help. V and Jkay are the ones who members have praised for having good musicality. Whenever he was asked about his future plans he would sound confused and lost.
This opinion will get me booed, but they could've made Jn the lead singer and it would've been better. He's improved a lot. Jn would scream the song out as loudly as possible, but he's taking lessons or working on improving his performance. Why did they pick Jm? He's a great dancer but not a great singer.
 
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I don't think he is capable of running company. I saw interview where he said he wants express his life in that song and the next thing in interview you see he partying in club and drinking in mv. The thing is he got fame and money into his head, he just wasting money. He is confused and don't know where to go
That song has two meanings. Dig deeper and it's very depressing. You're right about leadership skills. He would be a Jh or Rm to help with everything. He has the emotional capacity, but falls short with leading the group.
 
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The fight between solo stans might become true. Bcz the jk Stans are trolling jm saying that he literally sound like goat meh meh lol and there is no value to become no.1 army are crazy but maknea line fans are way crazy especially jk v
This whole thread where v jk fans bashing jm. Lol they called him bangs house maid
Pot calling the kettle black. If touched Jm, he definitely touched the others. Maknae line solo stans are the worst. Make me almost miss ot7s, but then I remember their rein of terror.
 

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Jimin had a nice voice at the beginning that could have been developed into a decent one but they've ruined his voice. His dancing and musicality has always been stellar but he has really done a 180 in the past 2 or so years and it seems like his light has dimmed significantly. He's always been extremely intelligent and shrewd, even namjoon said that he would go to Jimin for serious talks as he's the most mature in the group. But it seems to have really regressed on camera.

He used to be the most eye catching, interesting one despite the non-vocals lol. But he seems to be trying to make himself smaller and smaller lately. If it's a marketing tactic then it will backfire as he will not be taking maturely even after enlisting. And if its his actual personality, then he must have been through a lot. The difference in him just from the PTD concerts is staggering. He looked great at those and sounded decent and seemed so happy. He seems very burdened now. I don't think there's a chance in hell they've resigned fully with HYBE otherwise it would have for sure been announced to calm the investors while they do their military service. I wonder what they will do next. After that 2026 money grab, I think they're done as a group. They've had enough of each other for real lol. You can easily tell.

No congrats from V to his bestie for that history making number 1? I see LOL.
 

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Everyone is releasing their album. Even sugu is releasing album now. But where is he?does he really think he can continue with that shows. Jm said he was shocked seeing v making song and how serious he is about his music and made many good songs while they are in hitaus , where are those songs?
don't know i think he's not interest in making music .. or they didn't let him release the songs ..
 
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Jimin had a nice voice at the beginning that could have been developed into a decent one but they've ruined his voice. His dancing and musicality has always been stellar but he has really done a 180 in the past 2 or so years and it seems like his light has dimmed significantly. He's always been extremely intelligent and shrewd, even namjoon said that he would go to Jimin for serious talks as he's the most mature in the group. But it seems to have really regressed on camera.

He used to be the most eye catching, interesting one despite the non-vocals lol. But he seems to be trying to make himself smaller and smaller lately. If it's a marketing tactic then it will backfire as he will not be taking maturely even after enlisting. And if its his actual personality, then he must have been through a lot. The difference in him just from the PTD concerts is staggering. He looked great at those and sounded decent and seemed so happy. He seems very burdened now. I don't think there's a chance in hell they've resigned fully with HYBE otherwise it would have for sure been announced to calm the investors while they do their military service. I wonder what they will do next. After that 2026 money grab, I think they're done as a group. They've had enough of each other for real lol. You can easily tell.

No congrats from V to his bestie for that history making number 1? I see LOL.
Tom and Jerry are better friends than Tae and Jm. He's definitely more mature than Tae and Jk, but has to play a roll for fans who love baby cow Jm not the grown man he is today. His haircut is back to the debut styling. Fans teased them for the toddler haircuts, but his recent styling is like a kid.

Jm has been through a lot. Abuse victims will make themselves tiny praying it makes their abuser or the world stop hurting them. I didn't like him as an arrrrmy, but stepping away from the fandom, I can see that their company has the group on a short leash and treats them like characters in a show. I admire his resilience because he could've become another tragedy.

The jokes about him as Bang's wife are disgusting. Do we forget that he was a minor at debut and a middle school child as a trainee? Do fans think a grown man r@ping a child is funny? It's not rare for a victim to continue the relationship after 18. He's being manipulated and if that doesn't work, we've seen hive use blackmail. I doubt any of them signed again except Rm and Jh.
 
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don't know i think he's not interest in making music .. or they didn't let him release the songs ..
Tae and Jk aren't being allowed to release their songs. Tae is very business savvy and connected. He will find work. Jk is wallowing and doesn't have the strength to get the hell away from there. He was sold away as a kid, so he's never been on his own making those decisions.
 

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Tom and Jerry are better friends than Tae and Jm. He's definitely more mature than Tae and Jk, but has to play a roll for fans who love baby cow Jm not the grown man he is today. His haircut is back to the debut styling. Fans teased them for the toddler haircuts, but his recent styling is like a kid.

Jm has been through a lot. Abuse victims will make themselves tiny praying it makes their abuser or the world stop hurting them. I didn't like him as an arrrrmy, but stepping away from the fandom, I can see that their company has the group on a short leash and treats them like characters in a show. I admire his resilience because he could've become another tragedy.

The jokes about him as Bang's wife are disgusting. Do we forget that he was a minor at debut and a middle school child as a trainee? Do fans think a grown man r@ping a child is funny? It's not rare for a victim to continue the relationship after 18. He's being manipulated and if that doesn't work, we've seen hive use blackmail. I doubt any of them signed again except Rm and Jh.

He's the self insert queer rep for the fans and the ones who is constantly target with vile shit cos he's small and looks androgynous. It's funny cos when he's dressed like himself without makeup, he used look like a normal masculine dude. I think he's an absolutely fantastic actor but yeah, seems like he was a bit of the sensitive sort and has been through a lot. All the tarot right now speak of him being ready to walk fully away if he hasn't already done so.

And he's not the company fave at all. He got 10 days of promo for a 5 song EP that was delayed for unknown reasons. The hyungs are by far the faves, Suga has a whole show and is going on tour where he can keep all the coin he makes and wrote and produced his whole album so will keep all the publishing rights from that too. Smells like he has the upper hand right now and is setting himself up for a huge career post enlistment with the connections he's making.
 

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Tae and Jk aren't being allowed to release their songs. Tae is very business savvy and connected. He will find work. Jk is wallowing and doesn't have the strength to get the hell away from there. He was sold away as a kid, so he's never been on his own making those decisions.
that's very sad they didn't allowed to release their songs
 
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He's the self insert queer rep for the fans and the ones who is constantly target with vile shit cos he's small and looks androgynous. It's funny cos when he's dressed like himself without makeup, he used look like a normal masculine dude. I think he's an absolutely fantastic actor but yeah, seems like he was a bit of the sensitive sort and has been through a lot. All the tarot right now speak of him being ready to walk fully away if he hasn't already done so.

And he's not the company fave at all. He got 10 days of promo for a 5 song EP that was delayed for unknown reasons. The hyungs are by far the faves, Suga has a whole show and is going on tour where he can keep all the coin he makes and wrote and produced his whole album so will keep all the publishing rights from that too. Smells like he has the upper hand right now and is setting himself up for a huge career post enlistment with the connections he's making.
I don't think Jm is a favorite, or any of the vocal line, except maybe Jn. The hyungs have the most favor. Jn probably helped fund the group in the early years. Families often sponsor the debut and he was wealthy enough and likely has connections. Jm wasn't allowed to make a video for each song, but NJ did one for each of their debut songs and have corporate sponsors. Btees was sponsored by a discount family department store as nugus.

Jm looks like a regular cute masculine man. There's nothing gay about him, but arrrmys love to make him the self insert. If they want abuse, it's jikook. Toxic but romantic, it's Tae.kook. Protection, then Mini:moni or Yoon;min. If he's seen the fanfiction, and he has, what does he think about his fans? His pjms are all he has, because he's just a little gay boy to the rest of the fandom.

Jm can walk away and be happy. Find a nice partner or marry the one he has.start a family or grow it. The world is open to him. He should take advantage of his connections and move to the next stage of life.
 

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I don't think Jm is a favorite, or any of the vocal line, except maybe Jn. The hyungs have the most favor. Jn probably helped fund the group in the early years. Families often sponsor the debut and he was wealthy enough and likely has connections. Jm wasn't allowed to make a video for each song, but NJ did one for each of their debut songs and have corporate sponsors. Btees was sponsored by a discount family department store as nugus.

Jm looks like a regular cute masculine man. There's nothing gay about him, but arrrmys love to make him the self insert. If they want abuse, it's jikook. Toxic but romantic, it's Tae.kook. Protection, then Mini:moni or Yoon;min. If he's seen the fanfiction, and he has, what does he think about his fans? His pjms are all he has, because he's just a little gay boy to the rest of the fandom.

Jm can walk away and be happy. Find a nice partner or marry the one he has.start a family or grow it. The world is open to him. He should take advantage of his connections and move to the next stage of life.

I think their entire comeback as a group depends on whether namjoon wants to write their songs lol and if the successful ones don't give too much into their egos.

The fandom is weird as hell about him lol, the only thing they talk about is him being some brave little fairy. That man is probably the most fuckboy incel of them all. He's from South Koreas version of Florida, mega rich and was running through staff and girls lmaoo. The only one that pings for me is Jin and possibly hobi.

Still think JM will be incredibly successful when he walks away from that group, he just needs to have confidence.
 
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He's the self insert queer rep for the fans and the ones who is constantly target with vile shit cos he's small and looks androgynous. It's funny cos when he's dressed like himself without makeup, he used look like a normal masculine dude. I think he's an absolutely fantastic actor but yeah, seems like he was a bit of the sensitive sort and has been through a lot. All the tarot right now speak of him being ready to walk fully away if he hasn't already done so.

Masculine where?

They made him like a girl almost, started from oh he has small fingers, small hands. The idol industry is all about fetishizing the crap out of people.
 
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