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JoChris
JoChris
I think it is time a thread is started for bible student at.al. to defend John Anthony Hill himself, with minimal use of jahtruth propaganda website!
JoChris
JoChris
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JoChris
JoChris
Jesus will****NOT*** be reincarnated. Christ will come down from Heaven.

Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen him go into heaven.
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And that Event will happen just as it says. But, Christ also said the He would come as a thief in the night. No one is aware of the moment when a thief comes. Think about it you find out later, that a thief has paid you a visit, not the moment. Acts 1:10 does not say that Christ would not be reincarnated as well. Malachi 4 Behold I will send you EliJAH the prophet before the great and terrible Day of The Lord comes.
Infinityloop
Infinityloop
"Christ will come **DOWN** from heaven", on what model of the earth does this statement make any sense? and there is no 'heaven' to see if you know anything about the way the Universe is, which is even the most basic of astronomy. Are you sure you're not a flatearther @JoChris?
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phipps
Jesus will come the same way He went into heaven but with with glory and power. His coming won't be secret. The Bible says in Revelation 1:7, "Every eye shall see him." Matthew 24:27, "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." Psalm 50:3, "Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence." He will come as King of kings and Lord of lords.
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phipps
Continued...

However He will also come as a thief in the night. Jesus Himself explained clearly just how a thief's coming could be related to His coming: "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up" (Matthew 24:42, 43).
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phipps
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The thief would come unexpectedly when the owners were not looking for a thief. In the same way, Jesus' coming would take people by surprise. They would not be watching or looking for it.

So Jesus is going to come in glory and power and the whole world will know about it but it will also be unexpected and surprising.
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But when does a person realise that their house has been broken up by a thief? Do they know the moment of the thief's coming? Do they know of it while their house is being broken up? Or, do they only realise it some time after it has already happened? Now be truthful when you answer this. It also cannot be both things at the same time (thief & open) yet it has to be both things, since both things were prophesied.
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So, it has to be one and then the other, as both of those things cannot happen at the same time. And in Luke it said there would be a body. And in Revelation it says He has a New name written that no man knew but Him and he who receives it (the white stone) and that His new name is written IN the white stone (it is a book).
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Look at the cover of TWHOFTF. What does it look like?
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phipps
@bible_student I've just explained that according to Jesus' words. "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up" (Matthew 4:42, 43). Its about unexpectedness of His coming.
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But those who watch not will not be aware of the thief's coming.
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phipps
@bible_student, they will happen at once. The Bible tells us no one knows the hour when Jesus will return. So He will come unexpectedly in power and glory. Those things will happen at once.
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Matthew 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh NOT for [him], and in an hour that he is not AWARE of,
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