Biblical Gematria, Kabbalah and Checksums

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Lots of people here might be familiar with the way occultists weave numbers into their spiritual narratives, as seen in numbers like IXXI, 666, 11, the power of 3,6 and 9 etc etc

Very often, the meanings ascribed to these numbers are in direct opposition to Biblical concepts.

@Awoken2 mentioned to me a little while back that he felt Christian Zionists used Kabbalah in support of their ideas but I think that the numeric picture is actually more complex. It merits examination to decide if the numeric language of the Bible is Kabbalistic or written in gematria. @Axl888 reminded me of something I had looked into a few weeks ago, as did this thread by @SkepticCat :-

https://www.vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/88888-days.6075/#post-224808

I think Biblical gematria behaves more like a checksum in computing - check out the definition and see if you agree...

“A checksum is the outcome of running an algorithm, called a cryptographic hash function, on a piece of data, usually a single file. Comparing the checksum that you generate from your version of the file, with the one provided by the source of the file, helps ensure that your copy of the file is genuine and error free.”

I am not the first person to have noticed that the plain meaning of the text of the Bible is frequently encoded with numbers, which when interpreted along Biblical lines give rise to the same message in numeric form. In this way, the numeric values act as a checksum that the writers may not have been aware of, but which reflect the inspiration by a greater mind altogether.
 
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In Hebrew and Greek, the letters of the respective alphabets also correspond to numbers. The table below shows how it works out in Hebrew (OT)...

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And in Greek (NT)...

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Which all sounds dry and academic till the significance of the numbers underpinning well known passages become clear...
 

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hmmm...i am not really familiar with gematria or kabbala or checksum...you called me out probably because i chose the number 888, but it is just a date for a very special occasion of my life...and it will be tomorrow...coincidence??? ;):D:cool:
 

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hmmm...i am not really familiar with gematria or kabbala or checksum...you called me out probably because i chose the number 888, but it is just a date for a very special occasion of my life...and it will be tomorrow...coincidence??? ;):D:cool:
Wow - if you don’t know the meaning behind 888, you will love it!!!

JESUS = 888
By John Henry, Th.D.

INTRODUCTION:

The Biblical languages of Hebrew land Koine Greek and other ancient languages such as Roman and Sumerian used the letters of their alphabets for numbers also. One can use these letter/numbers to find the numeric values of words and phrases. This is called gematria. Gematria is a system for calculating the numerical equivalence of letters, words, and phrases.

Gematria can be used to gain insight into the interrelation of different concepts and to explore the interrelationship between words and ideas. It can be used as an evidence to back up established Biblical doctrine, and to gain insight into Bible interpretations by looking for words and phrases with the same values.

GREEK & HEBREW ALPHA / NUMERIC VALUES:

THE NUMERIC VALUE OF LORD'S NAME IN GREEK:

The Lord's name, JESUS, in Koine Greek totals 888:

Other names and titles of Jesus in Koine Greek are also in multiples of 8:

Lord = 800 (8 x 100 = 800)
Messiah = 656 (8 x 82 = 656)
Christ = 1,480 (8 x 185 = 1,480)
Saviour = 1,408 (8 x 176 = 1,408)
Emmanuel = 25,600 (8 x 3,200 = 25,600)

SUMERIAN / ENGLISH GEMATRIA CALCULATOR:

Dr. J. R. Church, founder and director of the Prophecy in the News, in studying the number 666 developed a gematria system for the English alphabet based on the ancient Sumerian civilization's method of calculating. The Sumerian system was based on a root of six as opposed to ten. It is believed that the Sumerian civilization is the most ancient after the Flood and their system of counting the very first after the Flood. The Sumerian system can still be seen in our use of the foot (12 inches = 2 x 6) and yard (36 inches = 6 x 6) and in our sexagesimal measurement of time (60 seconds, 60 minuets, 24 hours = 4 x 6).

As we have seen ancient languages used the letters of their alphabets for numbers also. Applying this fact and the Sumerian numbering system Brother Church developed an English gematria based on increments of six by adding 6 to each letter of our alphabet (i.e. A = 6, B = 12, C = 18, D = 24, E = 30, etc). To use such a system to "count the number of the beast" is called gematria.


SOME VERY INTERESTING RESULTS:

THE TRINITY = 888 (1 John 5:7)

MESSIAH JESUS = 888 (Daniel 9:25-26; John 1:41, 4:25)

THE LION OF JUDAH = 888 (Rev 5:5)

MORNING STAR = 888 (Rev 22:16)

THE KING JESUS = 888 (1 Tim 6:15; Rev 17:14, 19:16)

FINISHED CROSS = 888 (John 19:30)

DIVINE PRESENCE = 888 (Gen 3:8, 4:16)

OMNIPRESENT = 888 (Ps 139:7-12; Jer 23:23-24)

THE LORD'S TIME = 888 (Matt 24:44, 25:13)

COMING TRUTH = 888 (Rev 19:11; Jude 14-15)

KING OF THE SABBATH = 888 (Mark 2:28)

BIBLICAL PROPHET = 888 (Deut 18:15; Acts 3:20-23)

THE HOUSE OF GOD = 888 (1 Tim 3:15)

LAW OF LIBERTY = 888 (James 1:25, 2:12)

SCRIPTURES = 888 (Luke 24:27; John 5:39)

THE PASSOVER = 888 (1 Cor 5:7)

LAMB OF GOD SACRIFICE = 888 (John 1:29, 36)

LIVE IN CHRIST = 888 (John 10:28, 11:25-26)

SAVED IN JESUS = 888 (2 Tim 1:9)

JESUS FORGAVE = 888 (Luke 23:34)

CHRIST RECEIVED = 888 (John 1:11-13; Isa 28:18)

SPIRIT BIRTH = 888 (John 3:5-8; Rev 21:6, 22:17)

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Wow - if you don’t know the meaning behind 888, you will love it!!!

JESUS = 888
By John Henry, Th.D.

INTRODUCTION:

The Biblical languages of Hebrew land Koine Greek and other ancient languages such as Roman and Sumerian used the letters of their alphabets for numbers also. One can use these letter/numbers to find the numeric values of words and phrases. This is called gematria. Gematria is a system for calculating the numerical equivalence of letters, words, and phrases.

Gematria can be used to gain insight into the interrelation of different concepts and to explore the interrelationship between words and ideas. It can be used as an evidence to back up established Biblical doctrine, and to gain insight into Bible interpretations by looking for words and phrases with the same values.

GREEK & HEBREW ALPHA / NUMERIC VALUES:

THE NUMERIC VALUE OF LORD'S NAME IN GREEK:

The Lord's name, JESUS, in Koine Greek totals 888:

Other names and titles of Jesus in Koine Greek are also in multiples of 8:

Lord = 800 (8 x 100 = 800)
Messiah = 656 (8 x 82 = 656)
Christ = 1,480 (8 x 185 = 1,480)
Saviour = 1,408 (8 x 176 = 1,408)
Emmanuel = 25,600 (8 x 3,200 = 25,600)

SUMERIAN / ENGLISH GEMATRIA CALCULATOR:

Dr. J. R. Church, founder and director of the Prophecy in the News, in studying the number 666 developed a gematria system for the English alphabet based on the ancient Sumerian civilization's method of calculating. The Sumerian system was based on a root of six as opposed to ten. It is believed that the Sumerian civilization is the most ancient after the Flood and their system of counting the very first after the Flood. The Sumerian system can still be seen in our use of the foot (12 inches = 2 x 6) and yard (36 inches = 6 x 6) and in our sexagesimal measurement of time (60 seconds, 60 minuets, 24 hours = 4 x 6).

As we have seen ancient languages used the letters of their alphabets for numbers also. Applying this fact and the Sumerian numbering system Brother Church developed an English gematria based on increments of six by adding 6 to each letter of our alphabet (i.e. A = 6, B = 12, C = 18, D = 24, E = 30, etc). To use such a system to "count the number of the beast" is called gematria.


SOME VERY INTERESTING RESULTS:

THE TRINITY = 888 (1 John 5:7)

MESSIAH JESUS = 888 (Daniel 9:25-26; John 1:41, 4:25)

THE LION OF JUDAH = 888 (Rev 5:5)

MORNING STAR = 888 (Rev 22:16)

THE KING JESUS = 888 (1 Tim 6:15; Rev 17:14, 19:16)

FINISHED CROSS = 888 (John 19:30)

DIVINE PRESENCE = 888 (Gen 3:8, 4:16)

OMNIPRESENT = 888 (Ps 139:7-12; Jer 23:23-24)

THE LORD'S TIME = 888 (Matt 24:44, 25:13)

COMING TRUTH = 888 (Rev 19:11; Jude 14-15)

KING OF THE SABBATH = 888 (Mark 2:28)

BIBLICAL PROPHET = 888 (Deut 18:15; Acts 3:20-23)

THE HOUSE OF GOD = 888 (1 Tim 3:15)

LAW OF LIBERTY = 888 (James 1:25, 2:12)

SCRIPTURES = 888 (Luke 24:27; John 5:39)

THE PASSOVER = 888 (1 Cor 5:7)

LAMB OF GOD SACRIFICE = 888 (John 1:29, 36)

LIVE IN CHRIST = 888 (John 10:28, 11:25-26)

SAVED IN JESUS = 888 (2 Tim 1:9)

JESUS FORGAVE = 888 (Luke 23:34)

CHRIST RECEIVED = 888 (John 1:11-13; Isa 28:18)

SPIRIT BIRTH = 888 (John 3:5-8; Rev 21:6, 22:17)
I love it indeed...thanks for the info brother
 

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Another interesting calculation, taking the days of creation and this intriguing verse from the beginning of John:-

John 1 King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Taking Jesus working as part of the Trinity in the beginning yields some interesting numbers...

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If those numbers are passed on to the first day, an interesting set of numbers emerge...

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*edit - error here ^ - the final number was 972 but I left the 216 in from the previous calculation.7633A014-20EC-4DC5-9B59-4D7E71076DD7.pngAB3B2560-73C0-4FB5-8482-6786B89090D2.png

The number 4 is interesting due to the imagery associated with the Hebrew letters. Jesus says “I am the door”...

John 10:9-11 King James Version (KJV)

9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

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After “Dalet”, something very interesting happens with the numbers...

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If the 153 strikes you as odd, remember the detail in this passage and consider the notion of the fullness of the Gentiles...

John 21...

10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.

11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.
 
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The phrase “I am the door” echoes back to my childhood where my parents had bought a “scripture in song” style album by a band that I hated at the time but love now I am old enough to understand the words...


Another instance where an interesting door appears is immediately after the message to the twelve churches in the early chapters of Revelation...

Revelation 4 King James Version (KJV)

4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
 
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"153 Fish & the Fullness of the Gentiles"

Clay Cantrell (4 Dec 2016)
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Readers -

Here is, what I consider, a significant find the Lord showed me using the number 2190.

If you want some back story, go here:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/clay426-2.htm

According to the Bible Wheel database, there are two verses in the Bible that have a word in them valued at 2190:

John 21:11

"Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken."

Roman's 11:25

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."

Paul says that the partial blindness on Israel, and the end of the Gentile Age, is a mystery that he didn't want his readers to be ignorant of. Israel's partial blindness ends when a predetermined (fullness) number of Gentiles come into the Kingdom.

My conclusion re this mystery:

John 21:11 and Roman's 11:25 are recounting the same event.

The 153 fish dragged out of the sea are symbolic of the full number of the Gentiles to come into the kingdom.

I have theorized for years that the haul of the mega fish is the Catching Away (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17), terminating the Age of the (primarily Gentile) Church.

Also of note is that the 2190 valued word in both verses is the 17th word, and that the 17th triangle number = 153.

Jesus is Lord.

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What of the people who do not wish to use the door provided? What happens to the numbers after the fourth day?

On one level, the multiple of numbers continues to add to 153 forever. Curiously, if you add the fourth and the fifth day together, the numbers add up to.... 666

The calculation I had been looking at in full...

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*better to go in through the door!

P.s. whilst I might not agree with all the conclusions she draws, I have to acknowledge Pearl Kolleri for the very interesting numeric observations above...

 
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In Hebrew and Greek, the letters of the respective alphabets also correspond to numbers. The table below shows how it works out in Hebrew (OT)...

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And in Greek (NT)...

View attachment 24447

Which all sounds dry and academic till the significance of the numbers underpinning well known passages become clear...

In arabic they're called the Abjad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad
however, this knowledge comes from persia...and that's where jews got the kabballah from.
 

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In arabic they're called the Abjad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad
however, this knowledge comes from persia...and that's where jews got the kabballah from.
Interesting that the “wise men” came from Persia (where Daniel spent some time!)

As to the existence of numeric significance in the Bible, it goes right back to Genesis and runs right through, which is what I find the most fascinating.
 

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"153 Fish & the Fullness of the Gentiles"

Clay Cantrell (4 Dec 2016)
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Readers -

Here is, what I consider, a significant find the Lord showed me using the number 2190.

If you want some back story, go here:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/clay426-2.htm

According to the Bible Wheel database, there are two verses in the Bible that have a word in them valued at 2190:

John 21:11

"Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken."

Roman's 11:25

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."

Paul says that the partial blindness on Israel, and the end of the Gentile Age, is a mystery that he didn't want his readers to be ignorant of. Israel's partial blindness ends when a predetermined (fullness) number of Gentiles come into the Kingdom.

My conclusion re this mystery:

John 21:11 and Roman's 11:25 are recounting the same event.

The 153 fish dragged out of the sea are symbolic of the full number of the Gentiles to come into the kingdom.

I have theorized for years that the haul of the mega fish is the Catching Away (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17), terminating the Age of the (primarily Gentile) Church.

Also of note is that the 2190 valued word in both verses is the 17th word, and that the 17th triangle number = 153.

Jesus is Lord.

NumbersbytheBook.tumblr.com
Another way to know the timeline, or at least that we are still in season of harvest and not to late.
 

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I had got to wondering how long after the death of Adam it was till the flood came, and if the number had any significance.

Turns out it just might...

We’re told nothing of Eve’s death, but Adam died 930 years after being born (930 AM= 930 years of the world being formed)…Genesis 5:5…0 + 930 = 930AM

Adam became the father of Seth at 130…Genesis 5:3..0 + 130 = 130AM

Seth became the father of Enosh at 105…Genesis 5:6..130 + 105 = 235AM

Enosh became the father of Kenan at 90….Genesis 5:9..235 + 90 = 325AM

Cainan became the father of Mahalalel at 70…Genesis 5:12..325 + 70 = 395AM

Mahalalel became the father of Jared at 65…Genesis 5:15..395 + 65 = 460AM

Jared became the father of Enoch at 162…Genesis 5:18..460 + 162 = 622AM

Enoch became the father of Methuselah at 65…Genesis 5:21..622 + 65 = 687AM

Methuselah became the father of Lamech at 187…Genesis 5:25..687 + 187 = 874AM

Lamech became the father of Noah at 182…Genesis 5:28..874 + 182 = 1056AM

The Flood started when Noah was 600…Genesis 7:6..1056 + 600 = 1656AM

Adam died in 930AM…the Flood happened in 1656AM. Adam had been dead 726 years when the Flood happened.

726? I’m sure I had heard discussion of that number before...


I then looked into how the “Strongs” numbers were arrived at, and the methodology appears to be based on the order they appear in scripture, so God being the master mathematician, these numbers may well carry significance.

Each original-language word is given an entry number in the dictionary of those original language words listed in the back of the concordance. These have become known as the "Strong's numbers". The main concordance lists each word that appears in the KJV Bible in alphabetical order with each verse in which it appears listed in order of its appearance in the Bible, with a snippet of the surrounding text (including the word in italics).
Which put me in mind of this verse...

Isaiah 46:10

“Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yetdone, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”
 
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Lots of people here might be familiar with the way occultists weave numbers into their spiritual narratives, as seen in numbers like IXXI, 666, 11, the power of 3,6 and 9 etc etc

Very often, the meanings ascribed to these numbers are in direct opposition to Biblical concepts.

@Awoken2 mentioned to me a little while back that he felt Christian Zionists used Kabbalah in support of their ideas but I think that the numeric picture is actually more complex. It merits examination to decide if the numeric language of the Bible is Kabbalistic or written in gematria. @Axl888 reminded me of something I had looked into a few weeks ago, as did this thread by @SkepticCat :-

https://www.vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/88888-days.6075/#post-224808

I think Biblical gematria behaves more like a checksum in computing - check out the definition and see if you agree...

“A checksum is the outcome of running an algorithm, called a cryptographic hash function, on a piece of data, usually a single file. Comparing the checksum that you generate from your version of the file, with the one provided by the source of the file, helps ensure that your copy of the file is genuine and error free.”

I am not the first person to have noticed that the plain meaning of the text of the Bible is frequently encoded with numbers, which when interpreted along Biblical lines give rise to the same message in numeric form. In this way, the numeric values act as a checksum that the writers may not have been aware of, but which reflect the inspiration by a greater mind altogether.
What people fail to realize is that "gematria" is totally meaningless in English, as English is not a natural or divine language. It is an extremely hybrid language that lacks formal rules and borrows it's vocabulary from everywhere else (like from Germanic, Latin, French, Greek languages etc). English is very much one of the most syncretic, and therefore polluted, languages there are.
Especially native English speakers, unless well studied in this area, are unable to understand to quite the extent that it is.

That being said, when it comes to an authentic consistency in "gematria", we get this from Sanskrit, Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic and to some extent Greek too.
The idea of "Gematria" itself in terms of the philosophical component, goes back to Pythagorean Numbers, Platonic Solids and so forth.

The assigning of letters to numbers goes back to the history of number itself though, as before we had a separate set of symbols designating values, the ancients used to use letters. That is why alphabets were (and still are, in honor of the tradition) placed in a specific order.
Just as found in Pythagoreanism, Plato and later explicated further in Neoplatonic metaphysics, each number is in subordination to the last.
Not just in terms of quantity but quality as well, henceforth why God in metaphysics is regarded as "One".


 

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What people fail to realize is that "gematria" is totally meaningless in English, as English is not a natural or divine language.
Have you ever come across the idea that English is a creation of the occult?

There's a lot of strange things about the word choice in English, the way words are 'spelled' for instance:


We are told that English has evolved naturally over time, but what if it's been carefully crafted? If that were the case, then gematria could easily have been a part of that process, which in turn would perhaps explain why there are so many recurring patterns in the gematria of various news stories and events?
 

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A curious fact…

Our DNA Bears the Name of God (YHWH)
Just as Nature and the Universe declares the Glory of GOD, our very DNA also bears our Creators Mark!

Our DNA code is an astronomically complex 3 billion letters long which nobody including Satan can replicate.

To grasp the amount of DNA information in one cell: a reading of that code at a rate of three letters per second would take thirty-one years, even if reading continued day and night.
Dr. Francis Collins, a geneticist who led the Human Genome Project was quoted as saying:
"It is humbling for me and awe inspiring to realize that we have caught the first glimpse of our own instruction book, previously known only to God."

An Israeli scientist later analyzed 18,000 tissues for DNA. He surmised the following:
- It is just IMPOSSIBLE for Humanity's DNA to have attached itself by chance.
- There is a force that keeps our DNA strands attached.
- There are 4 Nuclide acids (chemicals) that make up the DNA sequence.
- A.T.G.C.
- The sulfuric bridge that holds them together are organized in the following sequence: 10-5-6-5
- In Hebrew that sequence 10-5-6-5 spells:
Y.H.V.H.
Yod = He – Vav – He

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Conclusion:
Our Heavenly Father Encoded His name in EVERY cell of our body, claiming us as His. Our very DNA is made in GOD’s Image!
And from the very beginning of creation, God declared that we are Made in His Image.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness...”

Robert Rite
 

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The most interesting numeric thing I have found out in my life… (you might find this one fascinating @Faker He-Man )

 
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What of the people who do not wish to use the door provided? What happens to the numbers after the fourth day?

On one level, the multiple of numbers continues to add to 153 forever. Curiously, if you add the fourth and the fifth day together, the numbers add up to.... 666

The calculation I had been looking at in full...

View attachment 24461

*better to go in through the door!

P.s. whilst I might not agree with all the conclusions she draws, I have to acknowledge Pearl Kolleri for the very interesting numeric observations above...

#8 represents Salvation through JESUS which is also the letter cheth which looks like the passover blood cover of the door sides and top.

Maybe y the 888 is for the salvation of the body mind & spirit?
 
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