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Sg is very tsundere. Used to think that was an act, but the hyper personality was fake and he really wants to be left alone. He comes alive in the studio and on stage. How does he act with fans? Do you remember hyper Tae? Was that an act too? He went from acting strange to seething with rage, and now acts like Mr Bean.
i think in Taehyung case something bad happen to change his personality , i don't think it was an act at all .. i read somewhere that Suga act like this to hide his depression or something ..
 

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Rm and his new album is such a massive jump away from what BTS turned into, it's shocking. His title song wildflower is actually good! And so is the album by and large. Dynamite really must have carved out his whole spirit and shoved it into a gutter lmaooo.

Miles better than what hobi put out and out of the maknaes,I only jimin doing something interesting and fun. JK got swallowed up in that Qatari fifa collab and Vee is too busy hoeing in South America with his gay group and following his beard around lol. I know he hatesss his band with a passion and is convinced that his work will propel him into stardom above all of them LOL. I never see anyone talking about his artistry or talent. Emperor only has his clothes and face lol.
the video of his new song also have less symbolysms or is it me :

 
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i think in Taehyung case something bad happen to change his personality , i don't think it was an act at all .. i read somewhere that Suga act like this to hide his depression or something ..
Both of them went through something. Sg has depression, and sleeps a lot. What do you think happened to Tae? I've seen a video of them introducing themselves and each year they have less enthusiasm. It's sad to watch their souls get crushed and fans don't care or notice anything. Tae used to drive Rm up a wall lol. He's usually his interview buddy and keeps him focused. Jn does the same for Jk, and Jh does it for Jm, and sometimes all of the maknaes.
 

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Both of them went through something. Sg has depression, and sleeps a lot. What do you think happened to Tae? I've seen a video of them introducing themselves and each year they have less enthusiasm. It's sad to watch their souls get crushed and fans don't care or notice anything. Tae used to drive Rm up a wall lol. He's usually his interview buddy and keeps him focused. Jn does the same for Jk, and Jh does it for Jm, and sometimes all of the maknaes.
someone hint that he was raped by someone at high level .. but i don't know for sure , his personality change around 2018 ..
 
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someone hint that he was raped by someone at high level .. but i don't know for sure , his personality change around 2018 ..
His personality changed a lot. The Mr Bean persona started then. Was it one of his actor friends or someone in that industry? Tae hasn't been ok since that time.
 

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His personality changed a lot. The Mr Bean persona started then. Was it one of his actor friends or someone in that industry? Tae hasn't been ok since that time.
if that's true , he must be dead inside, plus his grandparents die in that period , i know it was probably a blood sacrifice , but maybe that event affected him too
 
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if that's true , he must be dead inside, plus his grandparents die in that period , i know it was probably a blood sacrifice , but maybe that even affected him too
Did you see the video of him falling apart crying, because his grandmother passed? One of the members of enpipen did the same thing. Tae's personality was so cute. He's not the same as he was before. His members bullied him for being different, and he went through something terrible.
 

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Did you see the video of him falling apart crying, because his grandmother passed? One of the members of enpipen did the same thing. Tae's personality was so cute. He's not the same as he was before. His members bullied him for being different, and he went through something terrible.
didn't it was the one when they were at Mama or something ?That was hearth breaking to watch
 
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didn't it was the one when they were at Mama or something ?That was hearth breaking to watch
The enpipen member? It might be, I don't remember. His crying broke my heart too. American artists would be at the funeral or with their loved ones. They don't give their idols a break, even if a family dies.
 

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NJ album is actually good
Those awful english kiddie pop songs must have really did a number on him(as it should have)
This album is not for teens and NJ is behaving like an artist


He and yn gave up their musical creativity so they could pander to the west with bubblegum kiddie music


And NJ even had a line in one of his songs about an ex-its about time these men stop acting like asexual viewings to appease their obsessed fanbase


Also I also see jm as the only member if the vocal line that will release a good album
Jkay is too focused on being popular as a solo artist in the west and Vee is obsessed with just being famous
 

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The enpipen member? It might be, I don't remember. His crying broke my heart too. American artists would be at the funeral or with their loved ones. They don't give their idols a break, even if a family dies.
no Taehyung , he started to crying during a speech at the Mama and even backstage ..
 

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Sg is very tsundere. Used to think that was an act, but the hyper personality was fake and he really wants to be left alone. He comes alive in the studio and on stage. How does he act with fans? Do you remember hyper Tae? Was that an act too? He went from acting strange to seething with rage, and now acts like Mr Bean.
YG is still really hyper and loud. I think that's why his collab with Psy worked so well, because they're both massively energetic dorks. YG is pretty much the same toward fans today as he's always been, although if he's surrounded at airports or events, he goes into high-alert GTFO mode. Can't blame him, I would too. Not so sure about Tae, but YG definitely behaves like a toned down Mr. Bean. I think Tae is just absolutely weird and doesn't know how to act around other people. Very immature.

YG also contradicts himself a lot because he doesn't like it when other people are loud, but he can be obnoxiously loud quite often. JK didn't like YG when they first met cause of how boisterous he can be.
 
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NJ album is actually good

Those awful english kiddie pop songs must have really did a number on him(as it should have)

This album is not for teens and NJ is behaving like an artist





He and yn gave up their musical creativity so they could pander to the west with bubblegum kiddie music





And NJ even had a line in one of his songs about an ex-its about time these men stop acting like asexual viewings to appease their obsessed fanbase





Also I also see jm as the only member if the vocal line that will release a good album

Jkay is too focused on being popular as a solo artist in the west and Vee is obsessed with just being famous
When did he sing about his ex? Nj was really going through the long night of the soul. I thought he was dating someone new. It was painful to watch his video with the lyrics on. We talk about other companies not caring about their artists, but BH treats their artists like disposable products.

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times

I yearned for the flames
I yearned for a beautiful fall
Even before the start, I imagined
An end where I could applaud and smile
That’s what I wishеd for
When everything I bеlieved in grew distant
When all this fame turned into shackles
Please take my desire away from me
No matter what it takes
Oh, let me be myself
Oh, every day and every night
Persistin’ pain and the criminal mind
Nights the beating of my heart kept me up
The mournful crescent moon hung beyond the window
I do wish me a lovely night
Over my status is an oversized life
Desperately holding onto a balloon drifting by
I ask where you could be right now
Where you go, where’s your soul
Yo, where’s your dream?

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Where’s my end finally gonna be
Everything’s so exhausting, from a to z
When’s this wretched mask finally gonna come off
Yeah, me no hero, me no villain
I’m barely anything
Idling repeats, memories turning vicious
Lying in a field, I set my sights on the skies
Now I can’t remember what I wanted so badly
I trusted I was happy, now a mere memory
Yeah, I been goin’, no matter what’s in front
No matter what it may be
Memories of holding onto dawn’s edge and spitting things out
Society’s all for the loudest voice
And here I am, still speaking silence
It’s an aside, a boat in full bloom
To face all the prejudice and misunderstandings
I don’t care much for being tossed into the air
Grounded on my own two feet
Amongst the flowers without names
I can’t go to the stars again, I can’t
Underfoot, I just go
To a destination without a purpose
Not even knowing my own sadness
Even making friends with the shadows
I be gone

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Paused and turned out to be gloriously barefooted
Nothing was ever meant to be mine
And don’t tell me like you gotta be someone
Because I’ll never be like them (light a flower)
Yeah, my start was poetry
My one and only strength and dream that protected me so far (light a flower)
Burning fireworks to flowerworks
Boyhood to eternity
I’ll stay in this barren field
Ah, I’ll return someday

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times
 
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YG is still really hyper and loud. I think that's why his collab with Psy worked so well, because they're both massively energetic dorks. YG is pretty much the same toward fans today as he's always been, although if he's surrounded at airports or events, he goes into high-alert GTFO mode. Can't blame him, I would too. Not so sure about Tae, but YG definitely behaves like a toned down Mr. Bean. I think Tae is just absolutely weird and doesn't know how to act around other people. Very immature.

YG also contradicts himself a lot because he doesn't like it when other people are loud, but he can be obnoxiously loud quite often. JK didn't like YG when they first met cause of how boisterous he can be.
I haven't seen that side of Yg. I was a Tae stan, but then moved to other members. My first favorites in the group were the hyungs, NJ and Jh. YG is funny when he's drunk and carefree. Jh cries when he's drunk, and Jm and Tae are ridiculous drunk. Jk is the same, drunk or sober. I can't forget the time they walked into his live and NJ had this wtf look but tried to play the big brother.

I suspected for a while that Tae was neurodivergent. He's goes his own way. It drives the others up a wall, and they would speak up more. Now that him and the other maknaes are the most popular, they grin and bear and treat him like a little brother. The Psy Collab was very good, like the Collab with Becky G and Jh. The collaboration with NJ and the artists on his album is very good.
 

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When did he sing about his ex? Nj was really going through the long night of the soul. I thought he was dating someone new. It was painful to watch his video with the lyrics on. We talk about other companies not caring about their artists, but BH treats their artists like disposable products.

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times

I yearned for the flames
I yearned for a beautiful fall
Even before the start, I imagined
An end where I could applaud and smile
That’s what I wishеd for
When everything I bеlieved in grew distant
When all this fame turned into shackles
Please take my desire away from me
No matter what it takes
Oh, let me be myself
Oh, every day and every night
Persistin’ pain and the criminal mind
Nights the beating of my heart kept me up
The mournful crescent moon hung beyond the window
I do wish me a lovely night
Over my status is an oversized life
Desperately holding onto a balloon drifting by
I ask where you could be right now
Where you go, where’s your soul
Yo, where’s your dream?

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Where’s my end finally gonna be
Everything’s so exhausting, from a to z
When’s this wretched mask finally gonna come off
Yeah, me no hero, me no villain
I’m barely anything
Idling repeats, memories turning vicious
Lying in a field, I set my sights on the skies
Now I can’t remember what I wanted so badly
I trusted I was happy, now a mere memory
Yeah, I been goin’, no matter what’s in front
No matter what it may be
Memories of holding onto dawn’s edge and spitting things out
Society’s all for the loudest voice
And here I am, still speaking silence
It’s an aside, a boat in full bloom
To face all the prejudice and misunderstandings
I don’t care much for being tossed into the air
Grounded on my own two feet
Amongst the flowers without names
I can’t go to the stars again, I can’t
Underfoot, I just go
To a destination without a purpose
Not even knowing my own sadness
Even making friends with the shadows
I be gone

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Paused and turned out to be gloriously barefooted
Nothing was ever meant to be mine
And don’t tell me like you gotta be someone
Because I’ll never be like them (light a flower)
Yeah, my start was poetry
My one and only strength and dream that protected me so far (light a flower)
Burning fireworks to flowerworks
Boyhood to eternity
I’ll stay in this barren field
Ah, I’ll return someday

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times
Don't know,but the song's lyrics are kinda creepy
 

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When did he sing about his ex? Nj was really going through the long night of the soul. I thought he was dating someone new. It was painful to watch his video with the lyrics on. We talk about other companies not caring about their artists, but BH treats their artists like disposable products.

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times

I yearned for the flames
I yearned for a beautiful fall
Even before the start, I imagined
An end where I could applaud and smile
That’s what I wishеd for
When everything I bеlieved in grew distant
When all this fame turned into shackles
Please take my desire away from me
No matter what it takes
Oh, let me be myself
Oh, every day and every night
Persistin’ pain and the criminal mind
Nights the beating of my heart kept me up
The mournful crescent moon hung beyond the window
I do wish me a lovely night
Over my status is an oversized life
Desperately holding onto a balloon drifting by
I ask where you could be right now
Where you go, where’s your soul
Yo, where’s your dream?

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Where’s my end finally gonna be
Everything’s so exhausting, from a to z
When’s this wretched mask finally gonna come off
Yeah, me no hero, me no villain
I’m barely anything
Idling repeats, memories turning vicious
Lying in a field, I set my sights on the skies
Now I can’t remember what I wanted so badly
I trusted I was happy, now a mere memory
Yeah, I been goin’, no matter what’s in front
No matter what it may be
Memories of holding onto dawn’s edge and spitting things out
Society’s all for the loudest voice
And here I am, still speaking silence
It’s an aside, a boat in full bloom
To face all the prejudice and misunderstandings
I don’t care much for being tossed into the air
Grounded on my own two feet
Amongst the flowers without names
I can’t go to the stars again, I can’t
Underfoot, I just go
To a destination without a purpose
Not even knowing my own sadness
Even making friends with the shadows
I be gone

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Paused and turned out to be gloriously barefooted
Nothing was ever meant to be mine
And don’t tell me like you gotta be someone
Because I’ll never be like them (light a flower)
Yeah, my start was poetry
My one and only strength and dream that protected me so far (light a flower)
Burning fireworks to flowerworks
Boyhood to eternity
I’ll stay in this barren field
Ah, I’ll return someday

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times
They say he talk about her in his song change pt.2IMG_20221204_113030.jpgIMG_20221204_113027.jpg
But others say he means his old self or the music industry cus of these lyricsIMG_20221204_113740.png
 
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When did he sing about his ex? Nj was really going through the long night of the soul. I thought he was dating someone new. It was painful to watch his video with the lyrics on. We talk about other companies not caring about their artists, but BH treats their artists like disposable products.

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times

I yearned for the flames
I yearned for a beautiful fall
Even before the start, I imagined
An end where I could applaud and smile
That’s what I wishеd for
When everything I bеlieved in grew distant
When all this fame turned into shackles
Please take my desire away from me
No matter what it takes
Oh, let me be myself
Oh, every day and every night
Persistin’ pain and the criminal mind
Nights the beating of my heart kept me up
The mournful crescent moon hung beyond the window
I do wish me a lovely night
Over my status is an oversized life
Desperately holding onto a balloon drifting by
I ask where you could be right now
Where you go, where’s your soul
Yo, where’s your dream?

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Where’s my end finally gonna be
Everything’s so exhausting, from a to z
When’s this wretched mask finally gonna come off
Yeah, me no hero, me no villain
I’m barely anything
Idling repeats, memories turning vicious
Lying in a field, I set my sights on the skies
Now I can’t remember what I wanted so badly
I trusted I was happy, now a mere memory
Yeah, I been goin’, no matter what’s in front
No matter what it may be
Memories of holding onto dawn’s edge and spitting things out
Society’s all for the loudest voice
And here I am, still speaking silence
It’s an aside, a boat in full bloom
To face all the prejudice and misunderstandings
I don’t care much for being tossed into the air
Grounded on my own two feet
Amongst the flowers without names
I can’t go to the stars again, I can’t
Underfoot, I just go
To a destination without a purpose
Not even knowing my own sadness
Even making friends with the shadows
I be gone

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Paused and turned out to be gloriously barefooted
Nothing was ever meant to be mine
And don’t tell me like you gotta be someone
Because I’ll never be like them (light a flower)
Yeah, my start was poetry
My one and only strength and dream that protected me so far (light a flower)
Burning fireworks to flowerworks
Boyhood to eternity
I’ll stay in this barren field
Ah, I’ll return someday

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times
This my opinion, he going through something. I think he reached a point where he realised that fame was nothing. Like he is asking please take my desire away. His desire was to become star now he wants to throw that desire. I understood that. But the confusing lyric is no shame I'm on my grave. That's means he is not ashamed of what he is doing till now. But we really don't know who wrote song. But one thing is sure he is in depression or going through something. Idk this mv or someother exols are comparing it with one of d.o song and accusing him of coping.
They look somewhat same.
 

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This my opinion, he going through something. I think he reached a point where he realised that fame was nothing. Like he is asking please take my desire away. His desire was to become star now he wants to throw that desire. I understood that. But the confusing lyric is no shame I'm on my grave. That's means he is not ashamed of what he is doing till now. But we really don't know who wrote song. But one thing is sure he is in depression or going through something. Idk this mv or someother exols are comparing it with one of d.o song and accusing him of coping.
They look somewhat same.
so it means he regret being famous or what
 

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When did he sing about his ex? Nj was really going through the long night of the soul. I thought he was dating someone new. It was painful to watch his video with the lyrics on. We talk about other companies not caring about their artists, but BH treats their artists like disposable products.

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times

I yearned for the flames
I yearned for a beautiful fall
Even before the start, I imagined
An end where I could applaud and smile
That’s what I wishеd for
When everything I bеlieved in grew distant
When all this fame turned into shackles
Please take my desire away from me
No matter what it takes
Oh, let me be myself
Oh, every day and every night
Persistin’ pain and the criminal mind
Nights the beating of my heart kept me up
The mournful crescent moon hung beyond the window
I do wish me a lovely night
Over my status is an oversized life
Desperately holding onto a balloon drifting by
I ask where you could be right now
Where you go, where’s your soul
Yo, where’s your dream?

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Where’s my end finally gonna be
Everything’s so exhausting, from a to z
When’s this wretched mask finally gonna come off
Yeah, me no hero, me no villain
I’m barely anything
Idling repeats, memories turning vicious
Lying in a field, I set my sights on the skies
Now I can’t remember what I wanted so badly
I trusted I was happy, now a mere memory
Yeah, I been goin’, no matter what’s in front
No matter what it may be
Memories of holding onto dawn’s edge and spitting things out
Society’s all for the loudest voice
And here I am, still speaking silence
It’s an aside, a boat in full bloom
To face all the prejudice and misunderstandings
I don’t care much for being tossed into the air
Grounded on my own two feet
Amongst the flowers without names
I can’t go to the stars again, I can’t
Underfoot, I just go
To a destination without a purpose
Not even knowing my own sadness
Even making friends with the shadows
I be gone

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Paused and turned out to be gloriously barefooted
Nothing was ever meant to be mine
And don’t tell me like you gotta be someone
Because I’ll never be like them (light a flower)
Yeah, my start was poetry
My one and only strength and dream that protected me so far (light a flower)
Burning fireworks to flowerworks
Boyhood to eternity
I’ll stay in this barren field
Ah, I’ll return someday

Gonna scatter across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork
Gonna shine across that sky
Light a flower, flowerwork
Flower flowerwork

Flower field, that’s where I’m at
Open land, that’s where I’m at
No name, that’s what I have
No shame, I’m on my grave
When your feet don’t touch the ground
When your own heart underestimates you
When your dreams devour you
When you feel you’re not yourself
All those times
In my opinion flower firework is a metaphor for his death, like the tradition to put flowers on someone's grave. The flower field is a metaphor for his grave which will inevitably be decorated with countless bouquets of flowers left by his fans and admirers in the industry becoming like a field of flowers. This is explained in the chorus with the lines " No, Shame, I'm on my grave". Fireworks are a symbol representing life. Just like the life of idols (and Most people to be honest) fireworks are ephemeral being so bright and beautiful but lasting for only a few seconds. Most idols have careers that last only for a few years. They reach the sky, shine bright like a firework for a few moments and then after they grow old the shine fades away as they are replaced by another idol.

This is a beautiful song where he is contemplating on his life as a celebrity also being colored by his depression the lyrics are giving off some vibes of hopelessness and despair. He feels after reaching the top, getting all the fame and glory he realized that all of it was for nothing because at the end of the day he is a mortal human who will eventually die one day. He is also expressing his desire to break the false mask and let people see his true self but he can't because he is not allowed to have this much freedom.

This is my interpretation of the song. I know I could be wrong but this is the message he wanted to convey through the song. His album is actually good, not pretentious like JH's album. I think one of the reasons they decided to enlist was because the rapline, RM and Sug@ in particular felt tired of releasing kiddy bops that were destroying any legitimacy they had as artists.
 
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