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Here's the way I see it: Don't eff around, because you will find out. If you tag someone's personal account with such childish nonsense and accusations, then you are going to receive a childish response.

It is so aggravating how convinced armpits are that JM is being sabotaged. I mean really, how would they sabotage him with a group that hardly anyone has heard of? There are tons of artists around the world who I am very sure are going to also release music on the 28th, not just JM. We are not going to part the sea for JM and require all companies and artists to halt all releases for his benefit.
Oh my goodness! This is more news by the numbers. If any ARMY is reading that news and getting all worked up over it, please just calm down and save your breath. It’s so elaborate with the many names involved that I personally don’t have the time or energy to fully break it down.

In short, “Geffen Records”, “Ray Kurzeka”, “Taylor Swift”, and “Gracie Abrams” all sync up with “Park Jimin”, “Jimin”, “BTS”, “ARMY”, “The Jesuit Order”, “Skull and Bones”, and/or “Skull and Crossbones” in gematria. Noteably, even the so-called ARMY accounts I have seen associated with this story are synced up with Jimin and/or one of the above mentioned secret societies in gematria. Here are just a few highlights for breakdown I’d like to mention:

Concerning the single release date in question 6/28:
(1) First off, 6/28 is known as the only “perfect day” of the year b/c 6 and 28 are the 1st two perfect numbers in mathematics. The perfect numbers that come after those are too large to fit a day or date of the year.

(2) 6/28 can also be written 28/6, reminding of 286. Jimin was born on the 286th day of the year. “Jesuit Order” is 286 in gematria.

(3) “Jimin” = 28 in at least (4) ciphers in gematria. Furthermore, Jimin’s current age and age during the upcoming single/album release is 28 years (international age)

(4) The song Kurzeka linked to apparently spite ARMY as “song of the year” instead of addressing their concerns, is “us”. “us” is oddly spelled in all lowercase letters. When spelled in all lowercase “us”= 28 in one of the case-sensitive ciphers in gematria. Another number 28 in this thing and because of this spelling, seriously?! I mean, what are the odds this is a coincidence people? And by the way, “us” also syncs up with “Bones” (aka Skull and Bones), “BTS”, “Jimin” and “ARMY” in gematria.

Furthermore, between BTS’ 11th anniversary that just passed and 6/28 is 15 days. “us”= 11 and 15.

(5) Also, note that one of the songs on Jimin’s album MUSE is titled “Who” and the offending song is “us”, lol. What a joke!

(6)* As a bonus, and perhaps craziest of all, “song of the year” mentioned mockingly to ARMY by Ray Murzeka= 613 in the Satanic cipher of gematria. This reminds of 6/13, a date important to ARMY. Also, 613 is the 112th prime. “Smeraldo Garden Marching Band” = 112, and this is the name of Jimin’s upcoming single on 6/28! I kid you not! What a mockery this thing is indeed!

Plus, this number 112 reminds of the fact that the Jesuits come from 112 countries worldwide. Also “The Brotherhood of Death” (aka Skull and Bones) is 112 in at least (4) ciphers in gematria! What are the odds folks?!

(7) And speaking of Jimin’s single title “Smeraldo Garden Marching Band”, it is 344 in gematria. Jimin is currently 344 months old (and some change) and will be when this single is released.
 
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What I find a little bizarre is that the article refers to the kissing of the celebrity at the celebrity hug event as an unexpected and unforseen occurrence. Really? This type of thing couldn’t have been predicted? Hugs and kisses tend to go together. This is not to say that the ARMYs had a right to kiss Jin without his consent of course. I just find it wild that they would go so far as to suggest that stolen kisses could not have been anticipated in such a setting.
Not okay to do anything without consent, but it's interesting fans in Korea are expected to spend thousands on idols, forgo dating at the behest of their idols(many tell fans not to date and only focus on them), are basically super lonely like most in korean culture and a kiss on the cheek is wild to everyone. I think I posted somewhere before that with western celebs tight hugs and friendly kisses on the cheek are normal but in Korea they seem to have this odd imitation of that but with no emotion involved. They have a robotic version of spreading love but in reality the celebs are disgusted by showing affection to strangers.

Not that americans can't be too touchy or grabby as well which isn't right
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but there's not a criminalization or fans berating or bullying other fans who get special attention like hugs or kisses.
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it's interesting how jb fans in asia quickly where able to expect hugs and kisses because they knew what fans in the west got. It says a lot about cultural practices and humanity because honestly I don't believe "asian fans" are as shy or as jealous as any other human has the potential to be. The reality is fans in asia are treated as lowly and act as such. They can make demands but many never ask for more than a stiff photo if that. Kpop took the marketing advice of western entertainment but has such a wide gap between different classes of people. The reality is the fansign hugs and kisses are meant for wealthy heiress'/ fans who spend millions a year and not the common women. That's why you will never see street photos of idols with Korean fans. Maybe if they go on vacation in a foreign country but very uncommon. This is a big reason why they hate/ are jealous of ifans. It's actually sad how they get treated. But in return the idols have it worse to, one dating scandal with real evidence or a 'photo of a kiss' they'd be dead in Korea. It's messed up all the way around

The reality is fans who are treated like people and not cash cows tend to loose the fanatical behavior and chill out a lot more. I'm not sure if any modern day idol could have a spouse and share their life and be casual. Not because asian fans aren't human but because the system of idols is outdated and used simply as a major distraction from the gov even more than celebs are here. It leads to most never accepting celebs growing up and wanting them to stay young childlike and asexual forever. Some wish death on idols who try to have american style freedom yet may like american artist, but don't give asian celebs the same respect.

They stream and chart more but the reality is if a dating scandal can ruin your career you don't have a career.

In reality this is just sad but anthropology wise celeb culture is fascinating.
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knowing how insane and overprotective japanese fans have a history of being seeing a western celeb go and have people change behavioral patterns they swore they'd never change is insane. I've seen many argue Kfans aren't brash and desperate like western fans and only care about the idols success, but they are notorious for wanting idols who openly date to feel their wrath. The reality is when celebs are curated to be perfect it has a negative affect on the fans. It's not realistic so the fans warp their minds to create a new world where it all makes sense. I don't know much about what happened but if Kpop keeps going the way it's going the fans will be even crazier. They will believe the celebs really aren't human at all.
 

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Not okay to do anything without consent, but it's interesting fans in Korea are expected to spend thousands on idols, forgo dating at the behest of their idols(many tell fans not to date and only focus on them), are basically super lonely like most in korean culture and a kiss on the cheek is wild to everyone. I think I posted somewhere before that with western celebs tight hugs and friendly kisses on the cheek are normal but in Korea they seem to have this odd imitation of that but with no emotion involved. They have a robotic version of spreading love but in reality the celebs are disgusted by showing affection to strangers.

Not that americans can't be too touchy or grabby as well which isn't right
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but there's not a criminalization or fans berating or bullying other fans who get special attention like hugs or kisses.
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it's interesting how jb fans in asia quickly where able to expect hugs and kisses because they knew what fans in the west got. It says a lot about cultural practices and humanity because honestly I don't believe "asian fans" are as shy or as jealous as any other human has the potential to be. The reality is fans in asia are treated as lowly and act as such. They can make demands but many never ask for more than a stiff photo if that. Kpop took the marketing advice of western entertainment but has such a wide gap between different classes of people. The reality is the fansign hugs and kisses are meant for wealthy heiress'/ fans who spend millions a year and not the common women. That's why you will never see street photos of idols with Korean fans. Maybe if they go on vacation in a foreign country but very uncommon. This is a big reason why they hate/ are jealous of ifans. It's actually sad how they get treated. But in return the idols have it worse to, one dating scandal with real evidence or a 'photo of a kiss' they'd be dead in Korea. It's messed up all the way around

The reality is fans who are treated like people and not cash cows tend to loose the fanatical behavior and chill out a lot more. I'm not sure if any modern day idol could have a spouse and share their life and be casual. Not because asian fans aren't human but because the system of idols is outdated and used simply as a major distraction from the gov even more than celebs are here. It leads to most never accepting celebs growing up and wanting them to stay young childlike and asexual forever. Some wish death on idols who try to have american style freedom yet may like american artist, but don't give asian celebs the same respect.

They stream and chart more but the reality is if a dating scandal can ruin your career you don't have a career.

In reality this is just sad but anthropology wise celeb culture is fascinating.
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knowing how insane and overprotective japanese fans have a history of being seeing a western celeb go and have people change behavioral patterns they swore they'd never change is insane. I've seen many argue Kfans aren't brash and desperate like western fans and only care about the idols success, but they are notorious for wanting idols who openly date to feel their wrath. The reality is when celebs are curated to be perfect it has a negative affect on the fans. It's not realistic so the fans warp their minds to create a new world where it all makes sense. I don't know much about what happened but if Kpop keeps going the way it's going the fans will be even crazier. They will believe the celebs really aren't human at all.
Interesting perspective. I see most if not all of this fandom and celeb stuff as psychological manipulation and brainwashing. Celebrity personas are fake and scripted; their job is to keep buzz, “controversies” and distractions going constantly.
 

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yeah. None of the bts members came out with a hit (solo).
Do you have an official basis for saying this like a research data or a legitimate chart info? Or are you just making a personal assumption?
 
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...Suga was also a Valentino "ambassador..."
Which per usual is by the numbers. And per usual 223/322 are numerical highlights:

(a.) “Valentino”= 223 like “Skull and Crossbones”.

(b.) Yoongi’s birthday, “March 9, 1993”= 322 in gematria… reminding of Order 322 aka Skull and Crossbones

(c.) Yoongi’s show “Suchwita” and it’s theme song “Daechwita” each= 223 in gematria. “Daechwita” was even released on May 22, the day leaving 223 days left in the year… In case that isn’t enough, the first episode of Suchwita aired on 12/5 with guest RM. Between RM’s birthday and that date was 2 months and 23 days for another 223.

(d.) “Valentino” and Yoongi’s name and date of birth sync up by the numbers in various other ways.

(e.) Over the years, Yoongi has had hashtags and even a social media quote that = 322 in gematria.
 
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Not okay to do anything without consent, but it's interesting fans in Korea are expected to spend thousands on idols, forgo dating at the behest of their idols(many tell fans not to date and only focus on them), are basically super lonely like most in korean culture and a kiss on the cheek is wild to everyone. I think I posted somewhere before that with western celebs tight hugs and friendly kisses on the cheek are normal but in Korea they seem to have this odd imitation of that but with no emotion involved. They have a robotic version of spreading love but in reality the celebs are disgusted by showing affection to strangers.

Not that americans can't be too touchy or grabby as well which isn't right
View attachment 106952
but there's not a criminalization or fans berating or bullying other fans who get special attention like hugs or kisses.
View attachment 106953
it's interesting how jb fans in asia quickly where able to expect hugs and kisses because they knew what fans in the west got. It says a lot about cultural practices and humanity because honestly I don't believe "asian fans" are as shy or as jealous as any other human has the potential to be. The reality is fans in asia are treated as lowly and act as such. They can make demands but many never ask for more than a stiff photo if that. Kpop took the marketing advice of western entertainment but has such a wide gap between different classes of people. The reality is the fansign hugs and kisses are meant for wealthy heiress'/ fans who spend millions a year and not the common women. That's why you will never see street photos of idols with Korean fans. Maybe if they go on vacation in a foreign country but very uncommon. This is a big reason why they hate/ are jealous of ifans. It's actually sad how they get treated. But in return the idols have it worse to, one dating scandal with real evidence or a 'photo of a kiss' they'd be dead in Korea. It's messed up all the way around

The reality is fans who are treated like people and not cash cows tend to loose the fanatical behavior and chill out a lot more. I'm not sure if any modern day idol could have a spouse and share their life and be casual. Not because asian fans aren't human but because the system of idols is outdated and used simply as a major distraction from the gov even more than celebs are here. It leads to most never accepting celebs growing up and wanting them to stay young childlike and asexual forever. Some wish death on idols who try to have american style freedom yet may like american artist, but don't give asian celebs the same respect.

They stream and chart more but the reality is if a dating scandal can ruin your career you don't have a career.

In reality this is just sad but anthropology wise celeb culture is fascinating.
View attachment 106954
knowing how insane and overprotective japanese fans have a history of being seeing a western celeb go and have people change behavioral patterns they swore they'd never change is insane. I've seen many argue Kfans aren't brash and desperate like western fans and only care about the idols success, but they are notorious for wanting idols who openly date to feel their wrath. The reality is when celebs are curated to be perfect it has a negative affect on the fans. It's not realistic so the fans warp their minds to create a new world where it all makes sense. I don't know much about what happened but if Kpop keeps going the way it's going the fans will be even crazier. They will believe the celebs really aren't human at all.
A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
 

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A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
I think because some kpop fans are very toxic. How are you ?long time no see you
 

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A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
Hi! Welcome back! :)
 

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A fan hugged Yj of t×t with his permission and the other fans online had a tantrum. Chr1s Br0wn held a similar type of fan meeting, but also held fan's butts, hugged, and took pictures. I don't think kpop idols allow fans to take pictures. Kpop is a pale imitation of American population music, and it's run by people who don't care about the fan's emotional well-being or health. If they did, a lot of things wouldn't be the way they are.
Strawberry! It's been forever! How's life?

Kpop fans can been horrifyingly toxic. For example, some fans felt "betrayed" after Sungmin of Suju got married. Imagine how armpits would behave if one of the BT5 members got married...

Even before that, remember the Only 13 situation with Henry? I'm still scarred by that. Apparently there are still some people who yell that at him to this day. All over fans misunderstanding and panicking over a statement from SM.
 

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Strawberry! It's been forever! How's life?

Kpop fans can been horrifyingly toxic. For example, some fans felt "betrayed" after Sungmin of Suju got married. Imagine how armpits would behave if one of the BT5 members got married...

Even before that, remember the Only 13 situation with Henry? I'm still scarred by that. Apparently there are still some people who yell that at him to this day. All over fans misunderstanding and panicking over a statement from SM.
yes i imagine the day they would announce their engagements or marriages .. some army would be mad at them
 

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