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Interesting perspective. I see most if not all of this fandom and celeb stuff as psychological manipulation and brainwashing. Celebrity personas are fake and scripted; their job is to keep buzz, “controversies” and distractions going constantly.
It definitely is, but it's like teaching it's a job. Some teachers can create a lovely manipulative environment and create nice behaving little humans others can make the kids competitive and fight over scraps of attention. To me the purpose of kpop was to make the fandom desperate for validation, love and appreciation they will never get. That's why they do more than any other fandom out there but get the least. The fans are happy that if they ever see their favorite celeb they politely smile and turn the other way. I've never seen someone brag to not be allowed to walk up to someone they admire. They are not only okay with the superiority idols have to the average person they have internalized it. I think this is why depression and body dysmorphia and gender issues are rampant in kpop fandoms. Rather than getting their emotions for an artist out in a healthy way they flip it around and hyper focus on shipping and imagining themselves as males to fit the idea of what they believe their idol likes. Both girl group fans and boy group fans reject femininity in some way because of how unrealistic either the idea is compared to how they can relate to it or become it. It's almost pragmatic and seems highly destructive in nature both to Korean and American culture. It's taking the idolatry to another level. Their images are so far removed from reality if fans find out one thing that isn't perfect about the person they begin to have mental breakdowns. If 20th to 21st century entertainment was a class in the future I think that K-pop would mark the beginning of the end of the modern entertainment industry. It turned an artistic industry into a conveyor belt factory; which broke the very foundations of what everything was built off of. It's supposed to be real people taken and molded into something fake and then people loose interest over time and seek out the next young authentic thing. Now that everything is semi based off of the Kpop model nothing is authentic, it was rare before but now you have children who never had real lives and were kept inside perfect boxes. Plus the country's society makes it so most live that life anyway. This is why when you see kpop idols from america's old facebook you're confronted with the fact that even though most would see them as straight laced cookie cutter kids; in Korea if they took a picture with a foreign friend or a male hugged a girl, or they went to prom they are 'ruined' to the average Korean as an idol. This isn't a preference with American ent over Korean ent it's a question of is humanity loosing itself.
 

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It definitely is, but it's like teaching it's a job. Some teachers can create a lovely manipulative environment and create nice behaving little humans others can make the kids competitive and fight over scraps of attention. To me the purpose of kpop was to make the fandom desperate for validation, love and appreciation they will never get. That's why they do more than any other fandom out there but get the least. The fans are happy that if they ever see their favorite celeb they politely smile and turn the other way. I've never seen someone brag to not be allowed to walk up to someone they admire. They are not only okay with the superiority idols have to the average person they have internalized it. I think this is why depression and body dysmorphia and gender issues are rampant in kpop fandoms. Rather than getting their emotions for an artist out in a healthy way they flip it around and hyper focus on shipping and imagining themselves as males to fit the idea of what they believe their idol likes. Both girl group fans and boy group fans reject femininity in some way because of how unrealistic either the idea is compared to how they can relate to it or become it. It's almost pragmatic and seems highly destructive in nature both to Korean and American culture. It's taking the idolatry to another level. Their images are so far removed from reality if fans find out one thing that isn't perfect about the person they begin to have mental breakdowns. If 20th to 21st century entertainment was a class in the future I think that K-pop would mark the beginning of the end of the modern entertainment industry. It turned an artistic industry into a conveyor belt factory; which broke the very foundations of what everything was built off of. It's supposed to be real people taken and molded into something fake and then people loose interest over time and seek out the next young authentic thing. Now that everything is semi based off of the Kpop model nothing is authentic, it was rare before but now you have children who never had real lives and were kept inside perfect boxes. Plus the country's society makes it so most live that life anyway. This is why when you see kpop idols from america's old facebook you're confronted with the fact that even though most would see them as straight laced cookie cutter kids; in Korea if they took a picture with a foreign friend or a male hugged a girl, or they went to prom they are 'ruined' to the average Korean as an idol. This isn't a preference with American ent over Korean ent it's a question of is humanity loosing itself.
And also the way the kpop industry profits off of creating and maintaining parasocial relationships is beyond sick and toxic. I feel like kpop brainwashes a lot of people honestly. And it fosters unhealthy mindsets, especially for those who go all into it. As much as I really don’t care for Kpop and how it’s affected a lot of people, I still have no ill will toward the artists. I just wish they wouldn’t work that job, lol.
 

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And also the way the kpop industry profits off of creating and maintaining parasocial relationships is beyond sick and toxic. I feel like kpop brainwashes a lot of people honestly. And it fosters unhealthy mindsets, especially for those who go all into it. As much as I really don’t care for Kpop and how it’s affected a lot of people, I still have no ill will toward the artists. I just wish they wouldn’t work that job, lol.
Parasocial relationship is the entertainment industry's psychological strategy to "hook" people into continuously buying the "products..." It creates and fosters delusions among the "fans" bringing forth a kind of addiction...The "artists" serve as manufacturing instruments...who are themselves, "victims" in the larger scheme of things...
 

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Parasocial relationship is the entertainment industry's psychological strategy to "hook" people into continuously buying the "products..." It creates and fosters delusions among the "fans" bringing forth a kind of addiction...The "artists" serve as manufacturing instruments...who are themselves, "victims" in the larger scheme of things...
Exactly. I would even go so far as to say a lot of the artists are not only victims but slaves. I have serious doubts that the ideas and projects said to be (largely) the artist’s are actually their own. I don’t even believe RM and Yoongi are actually writing half the things they claim either. I also believe whatever they do actually write, they were given the titles, subjects and themes to write about. It’s all too closely by the numbers. This latest single with Jimin for example- my goodness! I didn’t post half of what I found about that on this forum, but it’s so by the numbers it’s insane. Plus I find Jimin’s new music video creepy and disturbing; the rhythm and beat of the song also feels very hypnotic and trance-inducing.

Anyway, I also want to add this: a lot of times celebs function as prostitutes and escorts as well. It’s really sad and sick.
 

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Exactly. I would even go so far as to say a lot of the artists are not only victims but slaves. I have serious doubts that the ideas and projects said to be (largely) the artist’s are actually their own. I don’t even believe RM and Yoongi are actually writing half the things they claim either. I also believe whatever they do actually write, they were given the titles, subjects and themes to write about. It’s all too closely by the numbers. This latest single with Jimin for example- my goodness! I didn’t post half of what I found about that on this forum, but it’s so by the numbers it’s insane. Plus I find Jimin’s new music video creepy and disturbing; the rhythm and beat of the song also feels very hypnotic and trance-inducing.

Anyway, I also want to add this: a lot of times celebs function as prostitutes and escorts as well. It’s really sad and sick.
Just like this.
 

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Exactly. I would even go so far as to say a lot of the artists are not only victims but slaves. I have serious doubts that the ideas and projects said to be (largely) the artist’s are actually their own. I don’t even believe RM and Yoongi are actually writing half the things they claim either. I also believe whatever they do actually write, they were given the titles, subjects and themes to write about. It’s all too closely by the numbers. This latest single with Jimin for example- my goodness! I didn’t post half of what I found about that on this forum, but it’s so by the numbers it’s insane. Plus I find Jimin’s new music video creepy and disturbing; the rhythm and beat of the song also feels very hypnotic and trance-inducing.

Anyway, I also want to add this: a lot of times celebs function as prostitutes and escorts as well. It’s really sad and sick.
Yep. But there are always exceptions to the rule...so to speak...For real, there are artists who have been/are principled enough not to compromise their integrity as individuals...And surely they're not among the richest and most famous... The devil rewards more money and fame to those with "committed enslavement..."
 

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BTS' Jin to take part in carrying Olympic torch in France...

BTS' Jin greets fans at a fan meeting a day after being discharged from the Korean military in Jamsil, Songpa District, Seoul, in this picture courtesy of BigHit Music, June 13. Yonhap

BTS' Jin greets fans at a fan meeting a day after being discharged from the Korean military in Jamsil, Songpa District, Seoul, in this picture courtesy of BigHit Music, June 13. Yonhap

 

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Yep. But there are always exceptions to the rule...so to speak...For real, there are artists who have been/are principled enough not to compromise their integrity as individuals...And surely they're not among the richest and most famous... The devil rewards more money and fame to those with "committed enslavement..."
Yep of course it’s not everyone. I have personally known true independent artists. Very rarely if ever do independent artists organically become household names who people worship. But of course “rags to riches”/“underdog to champion” is the common script for the industry plants, lol. It’s so generic and predictable and people keep falling for it. These mainstream artists who are shoved down our throats- most of them are Monarch slaves doing what they were programmed to do.
 
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BTS' Jin to take part in carrying Olympic torch in France...

BTS' Jin greets fans at a fan meeting a day after being discharged from the Korean military in Jamsil, Songpa District, Seoul, in this picture courtesy of BigHit Music, June 13. Yonhap' Jin greets fans at a fan meeting a day after being discharged from the Korean military in Jamsil, Songpa District, Seoul, in this picture courtesy of BigHit Music, June 13. Yonhap

BTS' Jin greets fans at a fan meeting a day after being discharged from the Korean military in Jamsil, Songpa District, Seoul, in this picture courtesy of BigHit Music, June 13. Yonhap

And guess what “Olympics” is in gematria? 223! The Skull and Crossbones and Masonic number that just will not go away. “Olympics” is also 138 like “Jin” is 138. There is a single by the Misfits titled “We Are 138” with a creepy skeleton wearing a cloak and crossing its arms. I always get the feeling that single is a nod to Skull and Bones.

Also “torchbearer”= 59 in at least (4) gematria ciphers and “Jin”= 59.
 
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And guess what “Olympics” is in gematria? 223! The Skull and Crossbones and Masonic number that just will not go away. “Olympics” is also 138 like “Jin” is 138. There is a single by the Misfits titled “We Are 138” with a creepy skeleton wearing a cloak and crossing its arms. I always get the feeling that single is a nod to Skull and Bones.

Also “torchbearer”= 59 in at least (4) gematria ciphers and “Jin”= 59.
And oh yea I forgot to add: “Jin”= 322, and his song “The Astronaut”= 322 as well reminding of Order 322 aka Skull and Bones. But this is not all. The Astronaut was released on 10/28/22, which reminds of 1028 or 128. “Skull and Crossbones”= 128.

What is super weird is this isn’t the first time in recent history I have seen that date 10/28 and 322 be connected together with a celeb. It happened famously (and tragically) with Matthew Perry. On November 18, 2022 (the 322nd day of the year) Matthew Perry was on the 20th season finale episode of Bill Maher’s show talking about his addiction problem. And in the show, Maher made the comment to Perry “A lot did have you in the dead pool”. Then the next year, on 10/28/23, Matthew Perry was found dead in a heated end of a pool. It was from the acute effects of “ketamine” which for the record= 138 in gematria.
 

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And oh yea I forgot to add: “Jin”= 322, and his song “The Astronaut”= 322 as well reminding of Order 322 aka Skull and Bones. But this is not all. The Astronaut was released on 10/28/22, which reminds of 1028 or 128. “Skull and Crossbones”= 128.

What is super weird is this isn’t the first time in recent history I have seen that date 10/28 and 322 be connected together with a celeb. It happened famously (and tragically) with Matthew Perry. On November 18, 2022 (the 322nd day of the year) Matthew Perry was on the 20th season finale episode of Bill Maher’s show talking about his addiction problem. And in the show, Maher made the comment to Perry “A lot did have you in the dead pool”. Then the next year, on 10/28/23, Matthew Perry was found dead in a heated end of a pool. It was from the acute effects of “ketamine” which for the record= 138 in gematria.
Also the quoted comment “A lot did have you in the dead pool” happens to be 128 in at least (2) gematria ciphers. Anyone can find this quote and read about this interview online in an article by DEADLINE from 11/18/22 (the 322nd day) by the way.
 

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This is a BTS Discussion Thread...lol

Here's one of the threads for covid-related posts... :)

 
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