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Karlysymon

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To your last question... it appears we will find out in approximately 25- 39 days (25 til the benefits run out, About two weeks more until people run out of money).
That’s creepy and frankly I don’t even want to think about it but iam guessing the gov’t already has tricks up its sleeve to subdue/distract and has made contingency plans to deal with hungry, angry, restless and homeless masses.
 






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That’s creepy and frankly I don’t even want to think about it but iam guessing the gov’t already has tricks up its sleeve to subdue/distract and has made contingency plans to deal with hungry, angry, restless and homeless masses.
Another inadequate stimulus check no doubt. Buy some more time. Unless absolute havoc in the dead heat of summer is what they actually want.
 






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Another inadequate stimulus check no doubt. But some more time. Unless absolute havoc in the dead heat of summer is what they actually want.
I agree. The absolute havoc is best reserved for later in the year.
For the UK, apparently stimulus is up to October. It still something to think about, immediate aftermath aside, some of these jobs are never going to come back.
 






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Yes, I think it's best we let it drop since you seem unaware of the history of chloroquine controversy, which after all, centered around a doctor with integrity in France, an integrity that got indirectly endorsed by your president which in turns shows his own integrity.
If he was suggesting a medication, he should have also been suggesting testing. The testing void is a big reason we are still in this hamster wheel.

infection control is really not rocket science either. Most people have an intuitive understanding of infection control to an extent. As president, he should have been helping create a prevention strategy instead of trying to play doctor.

seriously, he was suggesting a serious medication long before the lockdowns, but had no strategy for prevention.

it is also laughable that you think this suggestion is like some holy grail. Like every hospital was walking in darkness not realizing that their private vaults of this medication they keep just in case of emergency, because you never know when the mosquitos are going to try to cross the Atlantic and bring a plague upon us, was going to be the answer to their prayers.

All they had to do was go to these vaults and open their doors to let the light of this medications healing power flood the room. Someone from the crowd says, “we’re saved.” and they would have never known of this power they had already within their doors if it had not been for dr trumps heroic suggestion.

lol. No one needs dr. Trump. His passive approach got us into this mess and nothing you
say is going to fix that.
 






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If he was suggesting a medication, he should have also been suggesting testing. The testing void is a big reason we are still in this hamster wheel.

infection control is really not rocket science either. Most people have an intuitive understanding of infection control to an extent. As president, he should have been helping create a prevention strategy instead of trying to play doctor.

seriously, he was suggesting a serious medication long before the lockdowns, but had no strategy for prevention.

it is also laughable that you think this suggestion is like some holy grail. Like every hospital was walking in darkness not realizing that their private vaults of this medication they keep just in case of emergency, because you never know when the mosquitos are going to try to cross the Atlantic and bring a plague upon us, was going to be the answer to their prayers.

All they had to do was go to these vaults and open their doors to let the light of this medications healing power flood the room. Someone from the crowd says, “we’re saved.” and they would have never known of this power they had already within their doors if it had not been for dr trumps heroic suggestion.

lol. No one needs dr. Trump. His passive approach got us into this mess and nothing you
say is going to fix that.
Stop straw-manning as if I'm saying Trump is a healthcare expert. Parts of the medical world already knew the chloroquine treatment worked, others didn't. Was your hospital aware or been made aware of the chloroquine treatment and if so did they apply said treatment?

Either way, the special-interests-supported media, that was and still is almost entirely invested in promoting a vaccine, was trying to undermine the chloroquine treatment as well as the doctor's applying it. In France, the political establishment, led by the Minister of Health Agnes Buzyn, whose husband is a big pharma vaccine guy and national health counselor, banned chloroquine treatment, even though it was a cheap and widely accessible drug freely proscribed at the discretion of doctors. In this context, Trump's public endorsement of the treatment was a sign for many of those who were following this chloroquine case, that Trump is not bound by big pharmaceutical lobbies, even though you try to turn it around and insinuate a speculative theory about a conflict of interests with chloroquine producers. That's not how it is.

No, you don't need Trump's medical counsel, but he chose, unlike pretty much everyone else of the western mainstream, the right side. That's what I'm saying.
 






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Another inadequate stimulus check no doubt. Buy some more time. Unless absolute havoc in the dead heat of summer is what they actually want.
There is a reason the Pentagon activated its CONPLAN3500, which covers civil disturbance, nukes going off and earthquakes. I don't believe for a second that the aftermath of Floyd's death was "it". Iam always keeping this at the back of my mind and i believe they did so because something bigger is coming down the road, if not a few months from now.
CONPLAN3500
CONPLAN 3502, CIVIL DISTURBANCE OPERATIONS
  • The JSCP directs CDRUSNORTHCOM to conduct necessary planning and coordination to prepare DOD forces to assist civil authorities in response to civil disturbances, when directed by the President and Secretary of Defense. US domestic civil disturbances include riots, acts of violence, insurrections, unlawful obstructions or assemblages, group acts of violence, and disorders prejudicial to public law and order. Initial responsibility for the civil disturbance response rests with state and local authorities. This plan is implemented when the President determines that a civil disturbance situation exceeds either the capabilities or willingness of the state and local authorities to restore law and order
Remember Trump suggested doing this against the governors wishes. Also remember that this was activated for coronavirus, rather in the name of coronavirus
 






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There is a reason the Pentagon activated its CONPLAN3500, which covers civil disturbance, nukes going off and earthquakes. I don't believe for a second that the aftermath of Floyd's death was "it". Iam always keeping this at the back of my mind and i believe they did so because something bigger is coming down the road, if not a few months from now.
CONPLAN3500
CONPLAN 3502, CIVIL DISTURBANCE OPERATIONS
  • The JSCP directs CDRUSNORTHCOM to conduct necessary planning and coordination to prepare DOD forces to assist civil authorities in response to civil disturbances, when directed by the President and Secretary of Defense. US domestic civil disturbances include riots, acts of violence, insurrections, unlawful obstructions or assemblages, group acts of violence, and disorders prejudicial to public law and order. Initial responsibility for the civil disturbance response rests with state and local authorities. This plan is implemented when the President determines that a civil disturbance situation exceeds either the capabilities or willingness of the state and local authorities to restore law and order
Remember Trump suggested doing this against the governors wishes. Also remember that this was activated for coronavirus, rather in the name of coronavirus
People are going to be hungry real real soon. I don’t think anyone’s taking the implications of that anywhere near as seriously as they should be. I agree with you. Those protests weren’t “it”
 






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People are going to be hungry real real soon. I don’t think anyone’s taking the implications of that anywhere near as seriously as they should be. I agree with you. Those protests weren’t “it”
We had people over this weekend and one of our guests works in the courts handling evictions (Brooklyn) and she said she has been called back in full time effective immediately because the case load is immense. Everyone’s getting their paperwork in and their eviction cases scheduled for the second they are allowed to resume in August. It made me really sad I actually got in a bit of an argument with her about it tbh. She said “landlords are businesses too” and I said something about being heartless and mortgage forebearance programs.. blah blah. Seems it is not being passed down. So we are going to have that to deal with as well. I’m sure Lisa will be thrilled with all the homeless on her sidewalk :rolleyes:
 






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the doctors therapy works by logically treating inflammation and blood clots. Somethings are just not that hard to figure out now that we have more information. You’re sensationalizing this. No one needs doctor trump or his middle finger towards the pharmaceutical companies Since nothing is stopping this doctor from using common resources available to him to actually treat a patient, not just sit around tweeting.

no one needs dr trump, period. We would all be better off if he stayed out of it even more than he is. I don’t believe in making healthcare political for this very reason. It has hurt our ability to do anything about this from a public health perspective and we are a long ways away from finding common group to ever start looking at ways to prevent something like this from happening again, which is incredibly unfortunate. Everyone has combined a medication to a politician in a election year especially the people that seem to think that bringing this up will help boost someone else’s opinion of him.

that is the only reason most people bring this up and it only impresses the people who support trump. It doesn’t impress the left obviously and it will never impress someone like myself that knows how the real world is a lot more practical than the lifestyles of the rich and famous president trump edition episodes that are aired by Fox News.

good luck in your future campaign efforts though.
I missed the original debate but I'm glad someone's calling out the Hydroxychloriquine scam. It's disturbing that the narrative for treating covid, and this goes for many in the alternative media, is reduced to Chloriquine vs. Remdesivir. I can't say how many "alternative" doctors are touting a MALARIA DRUG as an aid defeating a coronavirus. What happened to reports about vitamin C injections?

I reject Dump along with drug makers Sanofi and Novartis. It's comical to listen to people pumping up the corrupt Israeli company Teva like a traveling drug rep. Here's Teva's recent history in the US :

Israeli-owned Teva Pharmaceuticals, one of the drugmakers named in Oklahoma’s lawsuit over the opioid crisis, has agreed to a settlement in which it will pay the state $85 million. Teva and Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter both announced the settlement Sunday in separate statements.
This video got no love in the coronavirus thread but again if you trust a drug being peddled by a serial scam artist, God help you.

 






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I missed the original debate but I'm glad someone's calling out the Hydroxychloriquine scam.
Sorry DS, there is no scam. I have posted several articles and interviews with front line doctors praising the effectiveness, availability and cost of Hydroxychloriquine. Even The Lancet had to retract an article with falsehoods.


According to a protocol-based treatment algorithm, among hospitalized patients, use of hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with a significant reduction in-hospital mortality compared to not receiving hydroxychloroquine.

 






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Sorry DS, there is no scam. I have posted several articles and interviews with front line doctors praising the effectiveness, availability and cost of Hydroxychloriquine. Even The Lancet had to retract an article with falsehoods.


According to a protocol-based treatment algorithm, among hospitalized patients, use of hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with a significant reduction in-hospital mortality compared to not receiving hydroxychloroquine.

Did they do a control group that was only given azithromycin? I’m just curious. Would appreciate if you know.
 






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So the question iam asking is; is there something more to these multitude of satellites being sent up into LEO other than the claim of 5G and internet? If China didn’t need multitudes inorder to roll out its 5G or enhance internet use, then why does the US need to unless they are to serve another (secret) purpose?
It's really hard to speculate. There is the massive China style surveillance and social credit system that many say is being erected. Then there is Corbett and Fitts discussing that the Gates vaccine is a operating system and that the cabal want the world to be part of the internet. Then there is the "Star Wars/Space Force" defense system being implemented in addition to the already existing DEW's. Then there is massive push for all things AI...so who really knows?

The only question to ask here is what are governments going to do to these unemployment masses as this drags on over a long period of time?
I suspect the free money and hand-outs will come with strings attached. Many may be forced to take the shot to receive benefits. Population reduction seems to be the main goal. Maybe government work projects will be implemented to further the socialist/communist agenda. It's hard to tell.
 






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