Do the “elites” believe the Rapture is imminent?

Red Sky at Morning

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No it means HH.

Heil Hitler.
I think there is a question of intrinsic meaning and attached meaning @TokiEl

If our YouTuber friend were a KKK member or a White Power activist, the 88 might have had meaning, but as he has no racial angle to his output, and because looks like a guy born in 88 to me, I think Occam’s Razor would gone down on the side of the less exciting explanation.
 

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I think there is a question of intrinsic meaning and attached meaning @TokiEl

If our YouTuber friend were a KKK member or a White Power activist, the 88 might have had meaning, but as he has no racial angle to his output, and because looks like a guy born in 88 to me, I think Occam’s Razor would gone down on the side of the less exciting explanation.
Are you arguing with the shepherde ?
 

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I just noticed that this sign is becoming a thing:-

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I know secular minded people look askance at people who work read Revelation 13 and imagine a day might come when the sign in the store will say “no mark, no service”, but how much of a jump would it really be?
 

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An old woman of 90 from Valdres in Norway had a vision from God in 1968. The evangelist Emanuel Minos had meetings (services) where she lived. He had the opportunity to meet her, and she told him what she had seen. He wrote it down, but thought it to be so unintelligible that he put it in a drawer. Almost 50 years later, he understood he had to share her vision with others:-

The woman from Valdres was a very alert, reliable, awake and credible Christian, with a good reputation among all who knew her. This is what she saw:

"I saw the time just before the coming of Jesus and the outbreak of the Third World War. I saw the events with my natural eyes. I saw the world like a kind of a globe and saw Europe, land by land. I saw Scandinavia. I saw Norway. I saw certain things that would take place just before the return of Jesus, and just before the last calamity happens, a calamity the likes of which we have never before experienced.

She mentioned four waves:

1. "First before Jesus comes and before the Third World War breaks out, there will be a 'détente' like we have never had before. There will be peace between the super powers in the east and the west, and there will be a long peace. (Remember, that this was in 1968 when the cold war was at its highest. —E. Minos) In this period of peace there will be disarmament in many countries, also in Norway and we are not prepared when it (the war) comes. The Third World War will begin in a way no one would have anticipated—and from an unexpected place.

2. "A lukewarmness without parallel will take hold of the Christians, a falling away from true, living Christianity. Christians will not be open for penetrating preaching. They will not, like in earlier times, want to hear of sin and grace, law and gospel, repentance and restoration. There will come a substitute instead: prosperity (happiness) Christianity.

"The important thing will be to have success, to be something; to have material things, things that God never promised us in this way. Churches and prayer houses will be emptier and emptier. Instead of the preaching we have been used to for generations—like, to take your cross up and follow Jesus—entertainment, art and culture will invade the churches where there should have been gatherings for repentance and revival. This will increase markedly just before the return of Jesus.

3. "There will be a moral disintegration that old Norway has never experienced the likes of. People will live together like married without being married. (I do not believe the concept 'co-habitor'? existed in 1968. —E. Minos.) Much uncleanness before marriage, and much infidelity in marriage will become the natural (the common), and it will be justified from every angle. It will even enter Christian circles and we pet it—even sin against nature. Just before Jesus' return there will be TV programs like we have never experienced. (TV had just arrived in Norway in 1968. —E. Minos)

"TV will be filled with such horrible violence that it teaches people to murder and destroy each other, and it will be unsafe in our streets. People will copy what they see. There will not be only one 'station' on TV, it will be filled with 'stations.' (She did not know the word 'channel' which we use today. Therefore she called them stations. —E. Minos.) TV will be just like the radio where we have many 'stations,' and it will be filled with violence. People will use it for entertainment. We will see terrible scenes of murder and destruction one of the other, and this will spread in society. Sex scenes will also be shown on the screen, the most intimate things that takes place in a marriage." (I protested and said, "We have a paragraph that forbids this kind of thing." —E. Minos.) It will happen, and you will see it. All we have had before will be broken down, and the most indecent things will pass before our eyes.

4. "People from poor countries will stream to Europe. (In 1968 there was no such thing as immigration. —E. Minos.) They will also come to Scandinavia and Norway. There will be so many of them that people will begin to dislike them and become hard with them. They will be treated like the Jews before the Second World War. Then the full measure of our sins will have been reached (I protested at the issue of immigration. I did not understand it at the time. —E. Minos.)

The tears streamed from the old woman's eyes down her cheeks. "I will not see it, but you will. Then suddenly, Jesus will come and the Third World War breaks out. It will be a short war." (She saw it in the vision.)

"All that I have seen of war before is only child's play compared to this one, and it will be ended with a nuclear atom bomb. The air will be so polluted that one cannot draw one's breath. It will cover several continents, America, Japan, Australia and the wealthy nations. The water will be ruined (contaminated?). We can no longer till the soil. The result will be that only a remnant will remain. The remnant in the wealthy countries will try to flee to the poor countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them.

"I am so glad that I will not see it, but when the time draws near, you must take courage and tell this. I have received it from God, and nothing of it goes against what the Bible tells.

"The one who has his sin forgiven and has Jesus as Savior and Lord, is safe."
 

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I just noticed that this sign is becoming a thing:-

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I know secular minded people look askance at people who work read Revelation 13 and imagine a day might come when the sign in the store will say “no mark, no service”, but how much of a jump would it really be?
I accidentally read that as "no mark, no service" "no mark, no entry".
Perhaps, it wasn't an accident :D
 

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An old woman of 90 from Valdres in Norway had a vision from God in 1968. The evangelist Emanuel Minos had meetings (services) where she lived. He had the opportunity to meet her, and she told him what she had seen. He wrote it down, but thought it to be so unintelligible that he put it in a drawer. Almost 50 years later, he understood he had to share her vision with others:
An old person said this, so it must be true.
 

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An old person said this, so it must be true.
I think the thing that was interesting is that the things she saw coming could not easily have been guessed at, and the person who shared the vision had nothing to gain from sharing what would at the time have come over as rather fanciful.
 

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Do the “elites” believe the Rapture is imminent?
Yes they are! Certainly making preparations. Rapture simulations, perhaps? This video deserves to be reposted here. (@seekinheart , it may interest you)


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Rather like the “Masonic” KJV and the “Rothschild-engineered” State of Israel, I suspect that when the Rapture takes place it will labelled by the conspiratorial worlds as the the “Illuminati”, Project Blue Beam “Rapture”...
 

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Rather like the “Masonic” KJV and the “Rothschild-engineered” State of Israel, I suspect that when the Rapture takes place it will labelled by the conspiratorial worlds as the the “Illuminati”, Project Blue Beam “Rapture”...
Pre-trib, Post-Trib, Pre-Wrath....

Amillennialism, Post-millenialism, Pre-millenialism.....

Pretty sure the Bible supports only one. Let's just wait and see which one pans out ;)
But it doesn't hurt to keep an eye on what the other side is up to!
 

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Pre-trib, Post-Trib, Pre-Wrath....

Amillennialism, Post-millenialism, Pre-millenialism.....

Pretty sure the Bible supports only one. Let's just wait and see which one pans out ;)
But it doesn't hurt to keep an eye on what the other side is up to!
Perhaps, they're all true and the raptures come in phases :D
 

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I think the mask wearing is a bit more speculative even though the YouTubers are jumping on it as a definite precursor to the mark. Wear a mask or not wear a mask. It's voluntary for the most part where I am. I choose to wear one when in public because I am in the age range (middle aged people are dying, too) and I serve two wonderful elderly people who are my only real family and I will not be careless or seen as careless when their lives matter more to me than my own.

I thought this was helpful.


Yet it probably is a precursor. I struggle with generalized anxiety because I know it will get worse and I want my loved ones to be on the right side in this. I think they will be.

The mark will include making allegiance to the AntiChrist. It's not something that can accidentally happen, like the devil will break into your home and give you the mark when you're asleep.

*I think John MacArthur has been willfully misinterpreted. He does not promote taking the mark of beast. See minutes 10-20 at the very least. Listen to the whole thing. Please don't argue this when it's already been argued. Thank you.
 

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ID2020 & Agenda 2030: Pathway To A Global Government & New World Order

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BY TODD HAMPSON/TODDHAMPSON.COM
MAY 11, 2020

I try to write a thoughtful post at least once a month, where I take time to research and vet various developments that relate to Bible prophecy. As I was looking over past articles something hit me. In terms of Bible prophecy and end-time developments, I believe that we will watch and wait in a new way. We will think in terms of "before Covid-19" and "after Covid-19." And there is a major difference.

In the world of TV and feature film production there is a tradition followed by the main crew once principle photography (shooting all the scenes) is done. After the last shot of the final episode (or the final movie sequence) is done, time is taken to honor the crew, the project, and the friendships formed.

The director will typically bring everyone together and individually acknowledge each person by name--followed by the phrase, "that's a wrap." Finally, after each person's contribution is acknowledged the director will state the name of the project (whether TV show or movie) and say, "that's a wrap." It is an extremely emotional moment for all involved in the production.

At this point, there is still much to be done before the show airs or the movie is released. All of the editing and post-production still needs to be done, but the key content is shot and "in the can". Every one of the critical "must-have" milestones has been reached.

I sense that is where we are on the prophetic schedule of things. The health, economic, and globalist effects of Covid-19 have moved us into a new (and perhaps final) era of the birth-pain period Jesus talked about in Matthew 24. In that chapter, Jesus responds to his disciples' questions about the timing of Jerusalem (and the temple) being destroyed, the end of the Church age, and the return of Jesus.

 

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Going by the book previously mentioned "Microwave auditory effects and applications", i wondered at 5g's microwave auditory effects as another reason for its global roll-out.

Voice of God weapons
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H.R.6666 - COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act


So which is it? That is, the Mark of the Beast? Is it bitcoin? vaccines? tracking and tracing?.......(red herrings, is what it looks more like to me)

Its rather curious that its made out to be that the bible isn't clear about it.
 

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So which is it? That is, the Mark of the Beast? Is it bitcoin? vaccines? tracking and tracing?.......(red herrings, is what it looks more like to me)

Its rather curious that its made out to be that the bible isn't clear about it.
I think we live in deceptive times! I can’t help but wonder if the rather “biblical” coding of there recent innovations and acts is designed to provoke a response... perhaps Christians are meant to panic and throw up their hands in horror at the coming ID2020 mark in order to “cry wolf”, only for the true wolf to appear on the scene a little later? Maybe.

Or maybe this is the real deal. I honestly don’t know @Karlysymon - I’m just keeping an eye on it ;-)
 
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