First Earth Battalion

[Karlysymon]

The reason iam making this thread is because....the times.
For people familiar with the subject, i think it is worth revisiting or talking about.

Psychic Spies, Acid Guinea Pigs, New Age Soldiers: the True Men Who Stare at Goats

“More of this is true than you would believe,” we’re told, just a few minutes into the movie version of The Men Who Stare At Goats, which opens today. But how many of the film’s outlandish military research projects really happened? Turns out there’s plenty of material in the movie which sticks...

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Psychic spies? True. The non-fiction book which serves as the movie's basis features Colonel John B. Alexander. He served as a Special Forces commander in Vietnam and spent decades promoting the use of psychics and "remote viewers" for national security. (That is, when he wasn't pursuing his interests in -linguistic programming, UFOs, or non-lethal weapons.) In 2007, our own Sharon Weinberger interviewed Col. Alexander in some depth on the military use of witches. "They were doing palmistry, crystal ball kinds of stuff," he said.

MI5, Magicians and False Flag OPs

 

[Cintra]

Excellent!

Though tbh, I am still not entirely convinced it isn't some kind of joke.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

Wonder if/how attached the Vietnam operation was to Project Phoenix.

 

[meximonk]

Padon me, I keep hearing the phrase, "First Earth Battalion" across the internet periodically. Could someone enlighten this old fart what it means? Thanks in advance.

 

[Cintra]

First Earth Battalion - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The manual is linked at the bottom

 

[meximonk]

Thanks. These people already exist, as I'm sure most of you on this Forum with me already know. That's what Delta Force is. Even with my background I had very limited contact with them, but they do exist.

 

[Karlysymon]

Wonder if/how attached the Vietnam operation was to Project Phoenix.

I think you are asking how this played into the Vietnam operation and Phoenix? If so, it's a great question and what did the DoD hope to achieve?

Thanks. These people already exist, as I'm sure most of you on this Forum with me already know. That's what Delta Force is. Even with my background I had very limited contact with them, but they do exist.

I thought the tv show Messiah perfectly encapsulated these types of operation: an intelligence agent/asset/pawn who somehow wroughts real "miracles".

 

[meximonk]

I think you are asking how this played into the Vietnam operation and Phoenix? If so, it's a great question and what did the DoD hope to achieve?

I thought the tv show Messiah perfectly encapsulated these types of operation: an intelligence agent/asset/pawn who somehow wroughts real "miracles".

Don't watch tv, haven't since 2000. (I have downloaded a select few shows from beyond that time period and watched them, i.e. "Star Trek Enterprise). But the Deltas are the closest thing to the Dune Universe's "Sardaukar" Soldiers. I can tell you they are some of the most "ate up" as we used to say as grunts, Special Ops I'd ever seen.

Sardaukar

The Sardaukar were the elite military force of the Padishah Emperor who served prominently during the Corrino Empire, later given to the command of Leto Atreides II by Farad'n Corrino. They were renowned and feared throughout the Known Universe for their fanatic zeal, superior fighting...

dune.fandom.com

 

[Johnny5]

Don't watch tv, haven't since 2000. (I have downloaded a select few shows from beyond that time period and watched them, i.e. "Star Trek Enterprise). But the Deltas are the closest thing to the Dune Universe's "Sardaukar" Soldiers. I can tell you they are some of the most "ate up" as we used to say as grunts, Special Ops I'd ever seen.

Sardaukar

The Sardaukar were the elite military force of the Padishah Emperor who served prominently during the Corrino Empire, later given to the command of Leto Atreides II by Farad'n Corrino. They were renowned and feared throughout the Known Universe for their fanatic zeal, superior fighting...

dune.fandom.com

What does "ate up" mean in that context? Tough and grizzled or chewed up and worn out?

 

[meximonk]

What does "ate up" mean in that context? Tough and grizzled or chewed up and worn out?

In my experience: jaded, terse, battle hardened / very experienced.

 

[Johnny5]

Gotcha.. I thought that is what you meant.

 

[Awoken2]

I didn't know where to put this but I had to put it somewhere.

Some fascinating links made here between Aleister Crowley, British Intelligence, L Ron Hubbard, Tom Cruise any many more.

@Karlysymon I strongly recommend you get the book Tavistock Institute Social Engineering of The Masses. It gives some valuable insight into the Smelly Cheeses programme MI5 used to run on their subjects involving MK Ultra techniques that enabled remote viewing.

It's a fascinating and equally disturbing book.

 

[TempestOfTempo]

I think you are asking how this played into the Vietnam operation and Phoenix? If so, it's a great question and what did the DoD hope to achieve?

I thought the tv show Messiah perfectly encapsulated these types of operation: an intelligence agent/asset/pawn who somehow wroughts real "miracles".

I think it bears some investigation!

 

[Corvus Metus]

World powers have always went to the occult, since the dawn of time. Since you know, never ignore a potential resource. Though I'm not sure how much actually came from their resources ever. I've know a lot of people that have been heavily invested in the occult and swore that supernatural powers changed their lives... But I've never seen any actual proof that it does anything other than change someone's outlook; something you can do without the mumbo jumbo.