LGBT+ movement starting to backfire (part 2)

TempestOfTempo

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Ok we need to do some research on our own here... the bills are listed and the abortion act specifically identified by title... whats the real story behind this? I'm going to check it out, hope others do as well. Lets see what we can come up with on this because it looks heinous and precedent setting...
 






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If I wasn't laughing at this, I would cry
That's not even the worst I've seen. here are some of the other things I've seen ( with pictures, but ill spare you those)

1/ men who pretend they are women are taking tomato soup, freezing it into ice cubes, and then inserting those ice cubes into their anus and pretending the melting soup is a period.
2/ men stealing women's used tampons and sanitary towels then wearing or inserting them to pretend they are having a period
3/ a man stole women's sanitary towels wore them and then urinated in them through the day and then masturbating to it when he gets home. He mainly got off on stealing pads off of women he knew at work, he thought it was powerful to look at them while peeing in the pad.
3/ A man who stole used tampons and pads from his female roommates, then proceeded to ring out the blood and make period blood tea, because in his words ''he couldn't afford estrogen to change sex so he had to do this, thinking it would work''.
4/ ( less disgusting but still sick) men going on miscarriage groups and pretending they have had a miscarriage to get off.
5/ men taking drugs to cause stomach cramps so they can pretend they are in labor or having a period.
6/ men inserting life-size baby dolls into their anus and then pushing them out so they can pretend they are giving birth
7/ men taking HRT and other female hormone drugs to make 'breast milk' then actually trying to feed their living real human babies this 'breast milk' because it validates/sexually excites them
 






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Former MP of the UK's daughter encouraging porn for children


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I don't think she's promoting porn or celebrating it. She's trying to find solutions for an epidemy that is already affecting the children. I'm not saying that it's the best solution out there but for a place where people claim to be "critical thinkers", yall tend to react to isolated words rather than general context or meaning. If she said "lets ban porn", people would have claimed it's unrealistic. To me, it's no different than what Ellen Paige suggested for smthg that already went way overboard. It's mostly reactionnary to a problem like porn which would be better off banned completely: Page said "I think we are in a very scary time right now.
"The rhetoric from the right-wing is terrifying to me. I think feminist porn is crucial. To only have porn from the male perspective is damaging. Women are sexual creatures, as much as men and that needs to be embraced."
Courtney Trouble was happy with Page's reply, and told news.com.au that feminist pornography was "by definition, porn made by feminists". She applauded Page for having the guts to talk about pornography to a broader audience.
"Feminist porn is made with gender equality in mind and/OR made with actual feminist politics," she said.
"Other than good old gender equality, often included in feminist porn are intersectional activism like racial justice, size positivity, sex with disabilities, and trans awareness".
"It goes to show how much work feminists have on their plate when the first argument against feminist porn is, 'Where's the MEN?,' she said.

I do think porn is extremely misogynistic and crass, and her approach is not the best, but again, we're already in dire times.
 






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That's not even the worst I've seen. here are some of the other things I've seen ( with pictures, but ill spare you those)

1/ men who pretend they are women are taking tomato soup, freezing it into ice cubes, and then inserting those ice cubes into their anus and pretending the melting soup is a period.
2/ men stealing women's used tampons and sanitary towels then wearing or inserting them to pretend they are having a period
3/ a man stole women's sanitary towels wore them and then urinated in them through the day and then masturbating to it when he gets home. He mainly got off on stealing pads off of women he knew at work, he thought it was powerful to look at them while peeing in the pad.
3/ A man who stole used tampons and pads from his female roommates, then proceeded to ring out the blood and make period blood tea, because in his words ''he couldn't afford estrogen to change sex so he had to do this, thinking it would work''.
4/ ( less disgusting but still sick) men going on miscarriage groups and pretending they have had a miscarriage to get off.
5/ men taking drugs to cause stomach cramps so they can pretend they are in labor or having a period.
6/ men inserting life-size baby dolls into their anus and then pushing them out so they can pretend they are giving birth
7/ men taking HRT and other female hormone drugs to make 'breast milk' then actually trying to feed their living real human babies this 'breast milk' because it validates/sexually excites them
Men are taking estrogen and sucking helium so they can get off pretending to be pregnant. How is this not a mental illness?

This is truly evidence of a world going mad. They are not even doing this in "sympathy/support" for females... it seems purely done in order to fuel their own psychosis.
 






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I don't think she's promoting porn or celebrating it. She's trying to find solutions for an epidemy that is already affecting the children. I'm not saying that it's the best solution out there but for a place where people claim to be "critical thinkers", yall tend to react to isolated words rather than general context or meaning. If she said "lets ban porn", people would have claimed it's unrealistic. To me, it's no different than what Ellen Paige suggested for smthg that already went way overboard. It's mostly reactionnary to a problem like porn which would be better off banned completely: Page said "I think we are in a very scary time right now.
"The rhetoric from the right-wing is terrifying to me. I think feminist porn is crucial. To only have porn from the male perspective is damaging. Women are sexual creatures, as much as men and that needs to be embraced."
Courtney Trouble was happy with Page's reply, and told news.com.au that feminist pornography was "by definition, porn made by feminists". She applauded Page for having the guts to talk about pornography to a broader audience.
"Feminist porn is made with gender equality in mind and/OR made with actual feminist politics," she said.
"Other than good old gender equality, often included in feminist porn are intersectional activism like racial justice, size positivity, sex with disabilities, and trans awareness".
"It goes to show how much work feminists have on their plate when the first argument against feminist porn is, 'Where's the MEN?,' she said.

I do think porn is extremely misogynistic and crass, and her approach is not the best, but again, we're already in dire times.
That elite member of the Epstein-class has shown herself to be a pervert proponent of CREATING and MAKING LEGALLY AVAILABLE pornographic materials for children. Thats like Weight Watchers utilizing Paul Prudhomme's fried chicken recipes to help the morbidly obese manage their diets and then giving them Mountain Dew and fen-phen to wash it down with smh.
 






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Yup. The “Oppression Matrix” started by the feminist lie and extended to people with transgenderism has grown beyond feminist control.

That’s funny to me: watching the dog bite the hand that feeds.
What feminist lie? Feminism came into being because women were classed as non humans by law. They had no rights to their own bodies (husband's could r*pe wives legally up to the 90s) they could not own money or bank accounts, have mortgages with out husband or father's permission (again up to the 90s), couldn't vote, husband's could decide if their wives died, and be beaten with a stick no bigger than the husband's thumb. Among other issues.
 






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I don't think she's promoting porn or celebrating it. She's trying to find solutions for an epidemy that is already affecting the children. I'm not saying that it's the best solution out there but for a place where people claim to be "critical thinkers", yall tend to react to isolated words rather than general context or meaning. If she said "lets ban porn", people would have claimed it's unrealistic. To me, it's no different than what Ellen Paige suggested for smthg that already went way overboard. It's mostly reactionnary to a problem like porn which would be better off banned completely: Page said "I think we are in a very scary time right now.
"The rhetoric from the right-wing is terrifying to me. I think feminist porn is crucial. To only have porn from the male perspective is damaging. Women are sexual creatures, as much as men and that needs to be embraced."
Courtney Trouble was happy with Page's reply, and told news.com.au that feminist pornography was "by definition, porn made by feminists". She applauded Page for having the guts to talk about pornography to a broader audience.
"Feminist porn is made with gender equality in mind and/OR made with actual feminist politics," she said.
"Other than good old gender equality, often included in feminist porn are intersectional activism like racial justice, size positivity, sex with disabilities, and trans awareness".
"It goes to show how much work feminists have on their plate when the first argument against feminist porn is, 'Where's the MEN?,' she said.

I do think porn is extremely misogynistic and crass, and her approach is not the best, but again, we're already in dire times.
Porn first off was and still is a CIA mind control experiment to degrade sexual ethics and norms on a wide scale (nothing is sacred and all things are transgressed with time, it is not fanaticism to say that pedo porn will be legal through porn consumption eventually), it is also innately leftist/liberal by nature and also clearly nihilistic. Because it is rooted in our biological desires (the sexual urge), it is something that is able to penetrate the minds of even the most conservative people (Especially in the internet age when anybody can access anything in 2 minutes).
The idea of adding Feminism to that is basically implying the attempt to try to make straight men gay (as if porn didn't already have that in it's intentions already), it can't really be anything that porn already isn't with it's inclusivity of both straight and LGBT contents.

You can't remove objectification from porn, when porn is only about the visual and not the tangible, the relational, the experiential.
These feminists don't get that they should be seeking real life partners and loving them sincerely, not making porn.

Another irony there is that porn made a cultural rise with the growth of feminism, which isn't coincidental. The more distance you try to make between men and women, the more 'objectification and sexism' will be there because of the deeply unhealthy and toxic situation between the sexes.

Anyway both feminism and porn have no redeemable qualities, both destroy society and promote violent nihilism. Feminism has ironically left the biggest dent on women than anything else, it has fundamentally pushed towards levels of sexism and objectification against women on levels that "patriarchal" men could never ever compete with.
 






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"young teens are already watching porn" and who's failure is this, stupid bitch. The answer is not to make the fucking stuff for them, goddamn it fucking sick world.
On second thought, the logic that these leftists are playing with is basically accelerationism isn't it?

Not only that but it is "we have a problem, so we'll make it worse" instead of addressing the cause of the problem. Brings me back to the problem associated with technology how so many people (including a certain UFO fanatic on here) think that technology can do no evil (even when it constantly does) and that we cannot undo anything, so that we should just go to the extreme conclusions.
 






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Porn first off was and still is a CIA mind control experiment to degrade sexual ethics and norms on a wide scale (nothing is sacred and all things are transgressed with time, it is not fanaticism to say that pedo porn will be legal through porn consumption eventually), it is also innately leftist/liberal by nature and also clearly nihilistic. Because it is rooted in our biological desires (the sexual urge), it is something that is able to penetrate the minds of even the most conservative people (Especially in the internet age when anybody can access anything in 2 minutes).
The idea of adding Feminism to that is basically implying the attempt to try to make straight men gay (as if porn didn't already have that in it's intentions already), it can't really be anything that porn already isn't with it's inclusivity of both straight and LGBT contents.

You can't remove objectification from porn, when porn is only about the visual and not the tangible, the relational, the experiential.
These feminists don't get that they should be seeking real life partners and loving them sincerely, not making porn.

Another irony there is that porn made a cultural rise with the growth of feminism, which isn't coincidental. The more distance you try to make between men and women, the more 'objectification and sexism' will be there because of the deeply unhealthy and toxic situation between the sexes.

Anyway both feminism and porn have no redeemable qualities, both destroy society and promote violent nihilism. Feminism has ironically left the biggest dent on women than anything else, it has fundamentally pushed towards levels of sexism and objectification against women on levels that "patriarchal" men could never ever compete with.
PREACH!!
 






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Interesting comment from someon on youtube:


By focusing on the particulars of these issues, the root of it remains opaque. James Lindsay has mapped these ideas more thoroughly than anyone. Hegel is the real source of the metaphysical (I.e. quasi-religious) underpinning of these movements. It is his idea that through the dialectic (thesis-antithesis-synthesis), humanity would reach a godlike state of perfection. It is then through criticism (antithesis) that humanity progresses toward that state. That is the source of “critical theory”. It is the source of Marx’s call to tear down all existing social conditions. Marx mapped it onto economics. Nietzsche, eugenics, and Hitler, mapped it onto evolution through Darwin. The New Left maps it onto culture and identity.

The religion is “progressivism”. The “eschaton” is Utopia (communist or otherwise), the Ubermensch, the Master Race. It is, per Hegel, the inevitable march of human progress. Those who stand in its way are “on the wrong side of history”. Adherents may debate the exact forms it will take. But they all branch off of that core religion, which believes that once all existing conditions, institutions and culture are torn down, a metaphysical Utopia will arise.

In that dialectical world view, born in Western Civilization, Christianity is one of the primary “theses” which must be attacked. Its attackers are therefore (importantly) not NON-Christian, but rather ANTI-Christian. And from a Christian standpoint, Satanic, whether the deceived progressive recognizes themselves as such. So it is not correct to call it the result of Christianity gone wrong, as if some genuine believers took a wrong turn. Rather, if you position yourself as the opposite of something, its antithesis, you are going to take on a similar shape, but backwards, from the thing you’re opposing.

When you read the actual core proponents and inventors of these various “woke” permutations, their nature becomes clear. They are neo-Marxists who want to tear down existing social institutions, structures and norms in order to prepare the society for a Marxist revolution. They say so. They don’t hide it. It is not the existence of various identity groups, but rather their mobilization into a set of political demands and a coalition that is the marker of the New Left. That’s why, as this video shows, they have a trans flag with a Communist fist on it. As does BLM. They’re not hiding who they are. They are constantly looking for new oppressed groups to add to their intersectional coalition of revolutionaries. And the US is vulnerable because of the legitimate past issue of slavery.

In the Bible, it is not a coincidence that the name “Satan” means “accuser”. “Critical Theory” serves the same function. If you think of the US as Job and progressives as Satan, you won’t be that far off. Except that Job had fewer sins to point to.

It is also probably not a coincidence that all of this evil emerged primarily from Germany, after the Protestant Reformation. I am a Protestant, and the Reformation was a conservative movement to bring the church back to is original, biblical, intended state. But some undoubtedly saw it as an opportunity to not only throw off the shackles of the Catholic Church, but of Christianity itself. And that’s where the snowball began to roll.

So in summary, the religion here is “Progressivism”. It believes that by destroying everything “old”, humanity will arrive at Utopia, perhaps by evolving into some higher, godlike state of being. In the particulars of this video, that means transcending nature and physical reality.

Why is it authoritarian, rather than liberal? If they were so sure of what they declare to be the inevitable future, why would they need to impose it by force? Well, the obvious answer is that they’re wrong, and they live in a fantasy world, and the only way their fiction can survive is to silence not only speech, but thought. But in their imagination, it is a result of believing that it is their mission to bring about these transformations of the entire human race, and also their repeated, horrifying catastrophic failures have led them to create the villain of “fascism” as an ever-present counter-possibility to their Utopia. In doing so, they deny the manifest reality that fascism, Nazism, and even the communist dictatorships they seek to disavow, are actually their own creation. Because in their tautological fiction, if it went badly, it must, by definition, not be their fault. Because burning down existing structures can only unleash the inherent good.

So at its core, from a Christian point of view, it can be simplified as a denial of sin, of the fallen state of man, and of a desire to supplant God, to become gods. Which, once again, is the nature of Satan.

To some progressives (Brett Weinstein is in this camp), at best, Christianity was a once-useful stage of human development, which we have now transcended. But they would like to keep whatever parts of it they still like, while discarding what they reject. As if it was just a phase that we learned a few things from. It is in that muddled ground that you find some thinking that they can have “affirming” churches. Because they will keep some of the form of Christianity, and a vague (and false) generality about “love”, but they don’t actually believe it. They just want to let some of its trappings hang around until they’re no longer needed. Which is why those churches shrink and die. They’re meant to. They’re a transitional step towards atheism, which is “progress”.
 






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What feminist lie? Feminism came into being because women were classed as non humans by law. They had no rights to their own bodies (husband's could r*pe wives legally up to the 90s) they could not own money or bank accounts, have mortgages with out husband or father's permission (again up to the 90s), couldn't vote, husband's could decide if their wives died, and be beaten with a stick no bigger than the husband's thumb. Among other issues.
That’s one version.

Here’s another: Feminism came into being because some “marginalized” women were sold a cultural Marxist fiction centered around hating what they had and wanting what men had. Now feminists have their idealized world and are still unsatisfied. Sounds just like transgenderism.
 






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Anyway both feminism and porn have no redeemable qualities, both destroy society and promote violent nihilism. Feminism has ironically left the biggest dent on women than anything else, it has fundamentally pushed towards levels of sexism and objectification against women on levels that "patriarchal" men could never ever compete with.
This.
 






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