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If a video is age restricted, a child is not capable of watching it in the first place... you can only watch an age restricted video if you are 18 or older.
Does youtube ask for ID?


Anyway, although there are plenty of good things about it as well, the culture, especially pop culture, is awash in what I consider essentially puke, or sewage, and I am far from being a prude. For instance, I was listening to a broadcast, commercial radio station once and the supposed comedian dj's, it was a morning "start the day with canned laughing" show, were talking about eating burritos and defecating on a glass table over their presumably aroused girlfriends. I don't know if there were any censors, or where they were. Speaking of "age restrictions," is there any way, other than moving to the wilderness into a log cabin, to prevent one's children, or the children in one's custody, from being exposed to this stuff? I ask for your recommendations and suggestions, with full respect to your intelligence and age.
 
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Does youtube ask for ID?
No lol. If you don't have a YouTube account then then video is automatically restricted... but if you have an account and you are 18 or older then you will be able to view the video. You can't create a YouTube account unless you're 13 (with parent's permission) or older. Some people might lie about their age but there's really nothing that YouTube (or any other website) can do about that.
is there any way, other than moving to the wilderness into a log cabin, to prevent one's children, or the children in one's custody, from being exposed to this stuff?
When it comes to young people and technology, it really depends on their age... if they're like 8 years old, then I don't think they should have free reign on the internet... really, the only time they should be online is when they're supervised and you have provided them with age specific websites/content. But, if they're older like around "tween" age or young teen age then I think it's best to teach children what's the best content for them to watch and direct them to content that was specifically made for their age group. If you give them a good foundation, then they will eventually be able to distinguish between good and bad content on their own. As they get older, most young people already know what they should and should not be watching and eventually you will have to let go and trust them. Children are not typically seeking out adult content in the first place because they have no knowledge or interest in it so they are less likely to ever view it at that age. I don't think it's really possible to prevent exposure altogether but if the young person is basically able to "self regulate" their own viewing habits then I think that's the most effective way of making sure that they aren't watching crazy adult content.

I know that when I was around 11-12 years old and I started browsing the internet and watching a lot of YouTube, I specifically stayed away from things that seemed to be made for adults because I knew that I probably shouldn't be watching it... The things I was actually interested in were not adult things in the first place so I almost never even came across adult content. I pretty much only watched gaming videos. Most of the popular YouTuber's content is pretty neutral so it's not something to worry about. Basically the worst thing that I saw in videos when I was younger was some swearing. YouTube doesn't even allow extreme content. I don't know much about other platforms but I'd give the same advice: provide children with a good understanding of what's ok for them to watch.

Being 12 is very different from being 8 so you can definitely trust a 12 year old to be more mature and smarter when they're online as long as you raised them right. They don't have to be constantly monitored and you don't have to become paranoid about what they're viewing because they're probably just watching some minecraft gameplay... lol. It is good to periodically check in on what your child is doing online though, just to make sure. I think simply being pragmatic and having an open conversation with your child is the best thing that will help them to navigate the internet in a smart way and help you to feel like they are being safe online.

Also young people don't really listen to the radio so I don't think you have much to worry about in that regard lol.
 
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... You can't create a YouTube account unless you're 13 or older. Some people lie about their age but there's really nothing that YouTube (or any other website) can do about that.
Exactly. So, in other words, if I am 9 years old, I can easily override any presumed "age restrictions" and watch whatever I want. And, believe me, if I were 9 years old, I would be doing exactly that. It seems to me that Youtube, as @Awoken2 put it, is covering their arse.
When it comes to young people and technology, it really depends on their age... if they're like 8 years old, then I don't think they should have free reign on the internet... really, the only time they should be online is when they're supervised and you have provided them with age specific websites/content.
What if they have a smartphone, are computer savvy, including with encryption, and know how to up- and download hardcore porn to each others' email box and I am busy at work?
But, if they're older like around "tween" age or young teen age then I think it's best to teach children what's the best content for them to watch and direct them to content that was specifically made for their age group.
I appreciate your idealism, but when I was 9 years old, things weren't quite so digital, and I used to steal Playboy magazines from the drugstore. That had nothing, or little, to do with my having been properly trained: it had everything to do with my libido and curiosity.
If you give them a good foundation, then they will eventually be able to distinguish between good and bad content on their own.
And what if, in the meantime, before I am able to give them that foundation, or while I am trying to build that foundation, they are being essentially taught to fixate on, among other things, S&M and scat, and are being taught that by way of slickly produced music videos?
... Children are not typically seeking out adult content in the first place because they have no knowledge or interest in it so they are less likely to ever view it at that age.
If you consider 9 years old a child, I sure was seeking it out.
I don't think it's really possible to prevent exposure altogether but if the young person is basically able to "self regulate" their own viewing habits then I think that's the most effective way of making sure that they aren't watching crazy adult content.
Well I was never much of a "self regulator," so maybe that affects how I view things. I project my own experience onto others.
I know that when I was around 11-12 years old and I started watching a lot of YouTube, I specifically stayed away from things that seemed to be made for adults because I knew that I probably shouldn't be watching it...
You're impressive.
... I think simply being pragmatic and having an open conversation with your child is the best thing that will help them to navigate the internet in a smart way and help you to feel like they are being safe online.
Not only are they unsafe online, but I am glad that they weren't listening to the FM radio station, particularly disgusting portions of which I unfortunately overheard in my car.


Thank you for the thoughtful, insightful post. It's interesting to consider things from your vantage point and through your lens.
 
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Exactly. So, in other words, if I am 9 years old, I can easily override any presumed "age restrictions" and watch whatever I want.
Most 9 year olds don't think to create a YouTube account in the first place so if they ever come across an age restricted video they will just see a grey screen and won't be able to watch the video... they would most likely click away at that point and forget about it. The few 9 year olds who may have cheated the system would be able to get around the restriction but like I said, there's really nothing that YouTube or any other website can do about that kind of thing... you can't really blame YouTube. The age restriction feature is fairly successful in preventing most children from viewing the content.

The main thing that can prevent that kind of behavior is when the parents are monitoring their child's internet activity, which they should be doing if their child is 9 years old.

I don't think the majority of 9 year olds would seek out content that is specifically made for adults in the first place though... they would probably be more interested in a cartoon like SpongeBob instead. But if your 9 year old would rather watch sexual content over SpongeBob, then I think you should restrict their internet access and only allow them to view content that was made for their age group.
What if they have a smartphone, are computer savvy, and know how to upload and download hardcore porn to each others' email box and I am busy at work?
It depends on how old they are... If they are older teenagers, at that point, I think it's best to have an open conversation with them about it. Sometimes work needs to be set aside in order to parent a child. I don't know the intricacies of parenting and this does seem like a difficult situation but ultimately a parent does have to accept that their teenager will eventually view porn at least once. If they are excessive with it, then that may be grounds for an intervention...
I appreciate your idealism, but when I was 9 years old, things weren't quite so digital, and I used to steal Playboy magazines from the drugstore. That had nothing, or little, to do with my having been properly trained: it had everything to do with my libido and curiosity.
Ok... well if your parents couldn't stop you in the past, why do you expect more from parents today? Some children might do what you used to do and seek those kinds of things out no matter what... so I'm not sure what their parents are supposed to do about that besides try their best to prevent it. I think the best methods of prevention are: providing safe/suitable content, monitoring/limiting your young child's internet access, and teaching them what's best to watch... If you do that then I think your child will be fine in the end, even if they decide to be a rebel.

You grew up into a seemingly normal human being despite having an early sexual awakening and reading playboy magazines as a child... your children will be fine as well. I assume you didn't turn into a crazed scat porn addict at a young age even though you read sexual magazines. I think parents need to let go of a little bit of their paranoia and stress and realize that they can only do their best. I know it's stressful raising a child but everything is going to be fine... children are resilient and smart, their brains aren't going to be destroyed at the first contact with the internet (especially if you're guiding them). Just be pragmatic and do the best you can... as long as you raise them right, they aren't going to turn out crazy. There are so many resources for suitable children's content online, people can utilize them. There is an app called "YouTube kids" that is specifically made for young children, adult videos won't be seen there at all.
And what if, in the meantime, before I am able to give them that foundation, or while I am trying to build that foundation, they are being essentially taught to fixate on, among other things, S&M and scat, and are being taught that by way of slickly produced music videos?
I don't think that's happening. I grew up with access to the internet at a younger age and I never got into scat porn... I don't think that's a common experience. I'm not even sure if people can simply be taught to have interest in a fetish. Most people who used the internet when they were younger have turned out normal just like everyone else, their experiences are not really different from their parents'. A lot of parents have seen porn when they were younger but then they act like it's crazy when their child does the exact same thing... almost everyone has seen porn when they were a teenager so I think it's sort of absurd to expect that your child will never ever see it. They're not going to become a fetishist just because they've seen sexual content before... that seems like a paranoid notion.

Again, I think the best way to minimize exposure to that kind of content is to utilize the tools that I brought up, that's really all that any parent can do... it's the same thing that parents had to deal with in the past, nothing's really changed much.
 
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Most 9 year olds don't think to create a YouTube account in the first place so if they ever come across an age restricted video they will just see a grey screen and won't be able to watch the video... they would most likely click away at that point and forget about it.
You are basing this assumption on what, exactly?
The few 9 year olds who may have cheated the system would be able to get around the restriction but like I said, there's really nothing that YouTube or any other website can do about that kind of thing... you can't really blame YouTube.
I'm not blaming Youtube, I am concurring with @Awoken2 that "age restrictions" are essentially a farce.
The age restriction feature is fairly successful in preventing most children from viewing the content.
Really?
The main thing that can prevent that kind of behavior is when the parents are monitoring their child's internet activity, which they should be doing if their child is 9 years old.
Yeah, well, a lot of parents are either single mothers, or two working parents, so monitoring the airwaves, even when radio censors aren't doing it, becomes a bit of a task.
I don't think the majority of 9 year olds would seek out content that is specifically made for adults in the first place though... they would probably be more interested in a cartoon like SpongeBob instead. But if your 9 year old would rather watch sexual content over SpongeBob, then I think you should restrict their internet access and only allow them to view content that was made for their age group.
The point is, how to restrict that access and control the content?
It depends on how old they are... If they are older teenagers, at that point, I think it's best to have an open conversation with them about it. Sometimes work needs to be set aside in order to parent a child. I don't know the intricacies of parenting and this does seem like a difficult situation but ultimately a parent does have to accept that their teenager will eventually view porn at least once. If they are excessive with it, then that may be grounds for an intervention...
What if that "porn" is being broadcast, even if as relatively "soft" porn, as standard music videos? Of what should that conversation consist, and how should I intervene, move to the wilderness to a log cabin?
Ok... well if your parents couldn't stop you in the past, why do you expect more from parents today?
I don't. That's why I am asking. But unlike in the past, porn is rather more accessible today. And Playboy was a far cry from bondage and discipline.
Some children might do what you used to do and seek those kinds of things out no matter what... so I'm not sure what their parents are supposed to do about that besides try their best to prevent it. I think the best methods of prevention are: providing safe/suitable content ...
That throws Youtube out the window.
You grew up into a seemingly normal human being despite having an early sexual awakening and reading playboy magazines as a child... your children will be fine as well. I assume you didn't turn into a crazed scat porn addict at a young age even though you read sexual magazines.
I wasn't exposed to scat porn on the FM radio. It wasn't exactly standard cultural fare. And as I said at the outset, I am far from being a prude.
I think parents need to let go of a little bit of their paranoia and stress and realize that they can only do their best.
How do you suggest they fight Hollywood? Have you watched the vids @Awoken2 linked and do you want your children watching such stuff, and possibly worse by the time you have any?
I don't think that's happening. I grew up with access to the internet at a younger age and I never got into scat porn... I don't think that's a common experience. I'm not even sure if people can simply be taught to have interest in a fetish.
Well, in case you haven't noticed, sexual fetishes seem to be the stock in trade of plenty of the videos linked. If people don't have an interest in them, why are so many watching?
A lot of parents have seen porn when they were younger but then they act like it's crazy when their child does the exact same thing... almost everyone has seen porn when they were a teenager so I think it's sort of absurd to expect that your child will never ever see it.
Who said I don't expect anybody to see it? On the contrary, I asked how to control it being perpetually broadcast as standard cultural fare.
Again, I think the best way to minimize exposure to that kind of content is to utilize the tools that I brought up, that's really all that any parent can do... it's the same thing that parents had to deal with in the past, nothing's really changed much.
Maybe you should look at an old Playboy and compare it to the whips and leather of Lady GaGa and listen to the FM radio hosts talk about taking a shit on a glass table over their girlfriends. It has changed much. How bad do you think it might be when you have children and how will you prevent their being exposed to it? Have a nice chat with them?
 

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To add in my two cents. Kids are smart. They will know the ways of creating accounts to access age restricted youtube material or porn for that matter.

I, as a parent, am concerned a bit. But somethings my child does on his own time is out of my control. Under our supervision we set examples and provide our son the best possible life experience so he grows into a healthy, responsible and respectful teenager/adult.



Kids will however learn things from friends. I remember the stuff my friends would talk about at school. Completely different demeanor in front of their parents. Joys of being a parent
 

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The point is, how to restrict that access and control the content?
This is fairly simple, I think. I already described what I think are the best methods that people can use.

Instead of letting your child go online whenever they please on whatever websites they please, schedule/limit their online time... and when they are online make sure they are only going on children's websites. You can block access to certain websites that you don't want them to go on by using parental controls. You can block all the porn websites.

When a child is young, they can't just go online whenever they want, they usually have to ask their parents if they can use the computer. I don't think a parent should give their little kid free reign over the internet, that would probably lead to some bad results (unless your child is mature). A child doesn't necessarily need their own laptop... even if you gave them their own laptop, you would still be able to use parental controls on it so that your child won't be able to go on adult websites. You can still provide your child with good websites that you want them to use and teach them the proper way to use the internet.

Perhaps instead of getting your child a smartphone when they are young, you can give them a handheld game console instead like a Nintendo DS or something... that's what I had when I was around 8. You can get them fun games that are for children, they don't need to be on the internet for entertainment. You can also get them a tablet that only has children's apps and games on it... there are plenty of options in this regard. I don't see why parents couldn't simply wait for their child to get a bit older before they give them their own internet accessible device and in the mean time, provide them with other fun devices that don't need the internet.

If your child does use the internet you should watch them when they are online. Also communicate with them, ask them what websites they like to go on... make sure they are safe websites. Only allow them to use safe websites that are geared towards children. You should be providing them with websites that would be suitable for them, show them content that's made for their age group that they would be interested in or excited about. There are plenty of online children's videogames that most children love to spend their time on... those websites are good for young kids. Tell your child what is good for them to watch and what you don't want them to watch. Instill a sense of right and wrong in them so that their own conscience can guide their actions. You should also utilize all of the children's websites, apps, and devices that are available as well as using parental controls. Like if your child wants to watch YouTube, give them the YouTube Kids app instead of regular YouTube.

And if you let your child use the internet you should explain to them what the internet is and what it means. You have to tell them what the dangers are and how to safely navigate the internet. Just inform them.

You can also give your child other things/activities to do besides being on the internet, make sure they're not constantly spending time in front of a screen. I think it's just basic parenting, do your best with the tools that you have... the child will turn out fine, everyone eventually makes it through these things.

Like I said, I think the best methods of prevention are providing safe/suitable content, monitoring and limiting your young child's internet access, and teaching them what's best to view online and what not to view... that's pretty much the full extent of what a parent can do. Once you've done that to the best of your ability, you pretty much just have to put trust into your child and know that they will figure things out for themselves. I don't see what you could do beyond that and I don't really think anything else would be necessary.

You really only have to do these things when your child is young, like when they are around age 8 up to age 12 because that's probably when a child begins to use the internet but they are still less mature and need more supervision.
I wasn't exposed to scat porn on the FM radio. It wasn't exactly standard cultural fare. And as I said at the outset, I am far from being a prude.
You said you read sexual magazines as a child and your parents could not stop you. You still turned out fine and you are a normal human being. A child growing up today may have a comparable experience and will turn out just as fine, they would not somehow become a crazed fetishist. But most children are not viewing porn at age 9 in the first place because their parents aren't just letting them do whatever they want on the internet. You can prevent a young child from viewing porn by literally blocking those websites from showing up at all. You should be properly monitoring your child when they're that young.

But at some point when a child gets older, they are going to come across porn just like you did and there's nothing a parent can do about that... Every person has seen porn as a teen and they don't get into scat or bdsm just because of it... worrying about your child having weird fetishes is sort of an irrational fear. Once they are an adult, it's their own personal business anyway.

I wouldn't say that scat porn or any kind of porn is standard cultural fare... people may have convenient/easy access to porn but porn is not in everything, it's not everywhere. There is so much content available on the internet, it's certainly not limited to sexual content. There is plenty of non sexual content available, there is also an abundance of content that is made specifically for children. Children's content does not contain pornographic material and that's what most children are viewing. As long as you keep tabs on what your kid is doing, you can make sure that they aren't watching fetish porn... they most likely won't be watching it in the first place. The occasional mishap where a little kid accidentally views adult content is not happening repeatedly... once a parent catches their young child viewing something inappropriate they would take the proper precautions so that it doesn't show up again. Just like if your parents caught you with the magazine, they would probably take it away. The difference is that parents are able to block internet porn websites before a child is able to find them in the first place.
Well, in case you haven't noticed, sexual fetishes seem to be the stock in trade of plenty of the videos linked. If people don't have an interest in them, why are so many watching?
I didn't say that no one has an interest in them... I said it's unlikely that a person can be taught to be interested in them. Sex sells, so many people are in fact interested in sexually suggestive videos... but those kinds of videos are made for adults and the people who primarily watch them are adults. Young children aren't regularly watching bdsm and scat porn. If they somehow came across a music video that had these themes, they still would not become a fetishist simply because they saw the video. And like I said, there are various ways to keep a child from viewing this sort of adult content in the first place. Exposure to sexual content probably can't be erased completely but it can easily be minimized... if you raise a child right then they will turn out fine regardless.
It has changed much. How bad do you think it might be when you have children and how will you prevent their being exposed to it?
I really don't think it's very different... the mediums might have changed but the actual experiences are the same.

I don't plan to have children but If I did then I would utilize the methods that I have already laid out to regulate my child's experience on the internet. If you have a child that's too young to go on the internet without supervision, then you have to supervise them when they're on the internet if you don't want them to do certain things... that's just how the cookie crumbles. Either don't let them go on the internet or keep and eye on them... those are literally the only two options. To make that job easier, there are dedicated websites, apps, and devices, that are made specifically for children and are suitable for their age group. There are also parental controls that are very useful in regulating a child's access to the internet. If I had a child, I would utilize all of those tools to make the internet as safe as possible for a young child... it's pretty simple. I wouldn't let my child freely browse the whole of the internet until they are around teen age and are mature enough to control their own self.

I know what it was like to grow up with access to the internet at a young age... I have cousins who are very young and who use technology... I can tell you that you really don't have to become paranoid over it. It's good to be aware and to be careful but ultimately you shouldn't stress out over this, your child will be fine. There are so many useful tools out there that make it easy to provide suitable content for a child and prevent them from viewing adult content. You really just have to be pragmatic about it.

I forgot this was the predictive programming thread so I didn't mean to go off topic like this. I only came here to point out that the scissor sisters video was in fact age restricted lol.
 
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If a video is age restricted, a child is not capable of watching it in the first place... you can only watch an age restricted video if you are 18 or older.
This is when you start making stupid statements that have no bearing on modern day life. Your average 10 year old today is far more computer savvy than your average 50 year old, this includes sidestepping age restrictions.. You will notice this in at times like Christmas when Grandpa hands his new tablet over to 8 year old Grandson to help him turn it on. If a kid wants YouTube they get YouTube, they just pop in parents DOB to bypass age restrictions or add required number of years and vuala! But it's included as standard feature now on most devices anyway.

Lol, I'm an adult. I don't think you understand how age restrictions work... they literally restrict non-adults from viewing the content.
Yes me too but I don't think you understand how's kids work. They get curious or they get sucked in by a nice love song that reminds them of that relationship that's just ended or started. Next thing they are being exposed to all sorts of depraved material.

Luckily it's age restricted and was not created as children's content.
At what age would you consider scenes of satanic ritual abuse to be deemed suitable as entertainment then.....in a civilised society?
 

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If a kid wants YouTube they get YouTube, they just pop in parents DOB to bypass age restrictions or add required number of years and vuala!
As I previously stated, some people may bypass an age restriction but there's really nothing that a website can do to prevent that. The only thing that can prevent or stop that behavior would be if the parents intervene and make sure that their child does not make an account when they are underage.

But, an age restriction is useful in preventing a child from stumbling across a video that they shouldn't be watching. If the child is actively seeking out the specific video, they are more likely to try to bypass that restriction in order to see the video. Although, I don't think there are many children who are actively trying to watch this particular video.
I don't think you understand how's kids work. They get curious or they get sucked in by a nice love song that reminds them of that relationship that's just ended or started. Next thing they are being exposed to all sorts of depraved material.
The vast majority of young children are not in a relationship... maybe if they're a teenager. And a 16 year old is far more mature than an 8 year old for example. I really don't think many young children would be actively seeking this specific video out and bypassing the age restriction to view it. It's possible that someone would do this but like I said, their parents should be preventing them from being able to view any inappropriate content... the age restriction is just extra, you definitely shouldn't rely on it. If someone is too young to freely browse the internet then they should be monitored when they're online and parental controls should be in place. That's pretty much the best precaution... after not allowing your young child online in the first place.

I basically only commented to inform you that the video is age restricted since you were seemingly very upset at the idea that it wasn't. Now you know and we can all move on with our lives.
 
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You are basing this assumption on what, exactly?

I'm not blaming Youtube, I am concurring with @Awoken2 that "age restrictions" are essentially a farce.

Really?

Yeah, well, a lot of parents are either single mothers, or two working parents, so monitoring the airwaves, even when radio censors aren't doing it, becomes a bit of a task.

The point is, how to restrict that access and control the content?

What if that "porn" is being broadcast, even if as relatively "soft" porn, as standard music videos? Of what should that conversation consist, and how should I intervene, move to the wilderness to a log cabin?

I don't. That's why I am asking. But unlike in the past, porn is rather more accessible today. And Playboy was a far cry from bondage and discipline.

That throws Youtube out the window.

I wasn't exposed to scat porn on the FM radio. It wasn't exactly standard cultural fare. And as I said at the outset, I am far from being a prude.

How do you suggest they fight Hollywood? Have you watched the vids @Awoken2 linked and do you want your children watching such stuff, and possibly worse by the time you have any?

Well, in case you haven't noticed, sexual fetishes seem to be the stock in trade of plenty of the videos linked. If people don't have an interest in them, why are so many watching?

Who said I don't expect anybody to see it? On the contrary, I asked how to control it being perpetually broadcast as standard cultural fare.

Maybe you should look at an old Playboy and compare it to the whips and leather of Lady GaGa and listen to the FM radio hosts talk about taking a shit on a glass table over their girlfriends. It has changed much. How bad do you think it might be when you have children and how will you prevent their being exposed to it? Have a nice chat with them?
Thank you for adding some common sense to this debate. It's much appreciated.
 

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As I previously stated, some people may bypass an age restriction but there's really nothing that a website can do to prevent that. The only thing that can prevent or stop that behavior would be if the parents intervene and make sure that their child does not make an account when they are underage.

But, an age restriction is useful in preventing a child from stumbling across a video that they shouldn't be watching. If the child is actively seeking out the specific video, they are more likely to try to bypass that restriction in order to see the video. Although, I don't think there are many children who are actively trying to watch this particular video.

The vast majority of young children are not in a relationship... maybe if they're a teenager. And a 16 year old is far more mature than an 8 year old for example. I really don't think many young children would be actively seeking this specific video out and bypassing the age restriction to view it. It's possible that someone would do this but like I said, their parents should be preventing them from being able to view any inappropriate content... the age restriction is just extra, you definitely shouldn't rely on it. If someone is too young to freely browse the internet then they should be monitored when they're online and parental controls should be in place. That's pretty much the best precaution... after not allowing your young child online in the first place.

I basically only commented to inform you that the video is age restricted since you were seemingly very upset at the idea that it wasn't. Now you know and we can all move on with our lives.
Reality check time.

https://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/bill-gates-says-this-is-the-safest-age-to-give-a-child-a-smartphone.html

Perhaps you should be trying to tell Bill Gates that there are some very effective filters around to stop HIS kids getting infected by entertainment.

Just think about that for a minute.
 
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If your child does use the internet you should watch them when they are online. Also communicate with them, ask them what websites they like to go on... make sure they are safe websites. Only allow them to use safe websites that are geared towards children. You should be providing them with websites that would be suitable for them, show them content that's made for their age group that they would be interested in or excited about. There are plenty of online children's videogames that most children love to spend their time on... those websites are good for young kids. Tell your child what is good for them to watch and what you don't want them to watch. Instill a sense of right and wrong in them so that their own conscience can guide their actions. You should also utilize all of the children's websites, apps, and devices that are available as well as using parental controls. Like if your child wants to watch YouTube, give them the YouTube Kids app instead of regular YouTube.
As I said, I appreciate what I consider to be your idealism. I remember when I was an idealist. The world was younger then: skies were blue, birds sang in the trees, fishies flashed in the brook {said with a smile, and good humor}.
You really only have to do these things when your child is young, like when they are around age 8 up to age 12 because that's probably when a child begins to use the internet but they are still less mature and need more supervision.
All the best with trying to "supervise" a 12 year old boy, especially when he is thought to be playing video games with his school friends and you're a single mother, or two working parents who cannot afford a nanny, tutor or boarding school.
Young children aren't regularly watching bdsm and scat porn. If they somehow came across a music video that had these themes, they still would not become a fetishist simply because they saw the video. And like I said, there are various ways to keep a child from viewing this sort of adult content in the first place. Exposure to sexual content probably can't be erased completely but it can easily be minimized... if you raise a child right then they will turn out fine regardless.
Your optimism knows no bounds. I appreciate that and remember being a boundless optimist as well. Somewhere along the line, and as it has been said, my optimism got mugged by a harsher reality, but I am not embittered by the event.
I don't plan to have children ...
I see. For what my opinion is worth, you are impressive and would make an excellent parent, but I also respect your plan.
I know what it was like to grow up with access to the internet at a young age... I have cousins who are very young and who use technology... I can tell you that you really don't have to become paranoid over it ...
You keep using words like "crazed," "crazy," and "paranoia." While I appreciate your concern, I don't think I am in danger of becoming any of those things, quite frankly. I am reacting to being awash in what often seems a steady stream of cultural puke and sewage and note that a lot of it is coming from sewage-central, Hollywood. That is one reason I am enjoying, and learning from, @Awoken2's thread. He watches (and analyzes) a lot more media than I do and I benefit from his analysis.
I forgot this was the predictive programming thread so I didn't mean to go off topic like this. I only came here to point out that the scissor sisters video was in fact age restricted lol.
And you make what I consider a legitimate point there: technically, it is age restricted. That point should have been acknowledged. But then a secondary point kicked in, viz., that age restrictions are often a farce. Anyway, I'm done with this topic for now too. Thanks, again, for responding.
 
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So what is the reward for the "artists" who manages to push their vile agendas onto as many kids as possible?

Let's have a look. First of all the queen of sleaze Lady Gaga


That got viewed over 1 BILLION times....well done Gaga, here, have a Vegas Residency.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/lady-gaga-enigma-las-vegas-residency-reviews-setlist-tickets-a8704116.html

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-46720527

Next let's have a look at Cardi B. Bringing porn and music together for 38 Million young viewers.


Yeah that's it Cardi get those young kids twerkin. Let's really drag them down your squalid pit of morality parading as entertainment.


Well that's a decent pop at 24 million views, here, have a Vegas Residency.

https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/born-to-flex-cardi-b-signs-las-vegas-residency-for-spr-1831986918

On to sold out sad act Robbie Williams. Giving people a musical prelude to the Vegas shooting As predictive programming goes it doesn't get better than this.


Good job that man, here, have a Vegas Residency

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/robbie-williams-announces-las-vegas-residency-37519686.html

This is today's mainstream music industry. The more filth you peddle the higher you go.
This is a response to the Cardi B video. Personally, I have no idea why someone would consider her an “artist”, “rapper”, ‘entertainer” or whatever they want to be called. The video I'm posting is from a band I remember when growing up in the late 80s/early 90s. I had a friend who absolutely loved...LOVED them! Both of us were supposed to see them in concert when they came to our city, however, as fate would have it, their touring bus got into an accident and they ended up canceling their tour.

In any event, here are some of the comments regarding the video: “This just shows that you don’t need to be half naked to have a good voice” and another states, "What I like is that she is fully clothed and plus size !!!!" It’s strange that this clothing “feature” for some musicians today is something of the past. That said the rest of the YT comments do give a glimmer of hope for the future:

 
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As I previously stated, some people may bypass an age restriction but there's really nothing that a website can do to prevent that. The only thing that can prevent or stop that behavior would be if the parents intervene and make sure that their child does not make an account when they are underage.

But, an age restriction is useful in preventing a child from stumbling across a video that they shouldn't be watching. If the child is actively seeking out the specific video, they are more likely to try to bypass that restriction in order to see the video. Although, I don't think there are many children who are actively trying to watch this particular video.

The vast majority of young children are not in a relationship... maybe if they're a teenager. And a 16 year old is far more mature than an 8 year old for example. I really don't think many young children would be actively seeking this specific video out and bypassing the age restriction to view it. It's possible that someone would do this but like I said, their parents should be preventing them from being able to view any inappropriate content... the age restriction is just extra, you definitely shouldn't rely on it. If someone is too young to freely browse the internet then they should be monitored when they're online and parental controls should be in place. That's pretty much the best precaution... after not allowing your young child online in the first place.

I basically only commented to inform you that the video is age restricted since you were seemingly very upset at the idea that it wasn't. Now you know and we can all move on with our lives.
"As I previously stated, some people may bypass an age restriction"
That is pretty much the exact opposite of what you stated.....
"Most 9 year olds don't think to create a YouTube account in the first place so if they ever come across an age restricted video they will just see a grey screen and won't be able to watch the video"

But as Serveto mentioned, you are just an idealist right? Easy to remain that way when your 19 forever, eh "Hex"?
 

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This is a response to the Cardi B video. Personally, I have no idea why someone would consider her an “artist”, “rapper”, ‘entertainer” or whatever they want to be called.
I'm going on the general assumption that the B in Cardi B stands for beta kitten. Even more so with the animal prints featured in her tacky video.

https://themonarchfiles.wordpress.com/tag/beta-kitten/

I completely agree with you on Soul to Soul and Caron Wheeler, there was nothing.insideous about their material.... Oh have things have gone downhill since then?
 
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I'm going on the general assumption that the B in Cardi B stands for beta kitten. Even more so with the animal prints featured in her tacky video.

https://themonarchfiles.wordpress.com/tag/beta-kitten/

I completely agree with you on Soul to Soul and Caron Wheeler, there was nothing.insideous about their material.... Oh have things down downhill since then?
I think shes been called cardi B before she entered the industry. Its a NYC Hip-Hop/gang nickname. Shes a wierd one because on one hand, she pushes an agenda to the hilt, but Im not sure how aware she even is of this. For her, open violence and sexuality are just what she has been raised around. But on the other hand, she says things other artists wont/cant express and her lack of filter seems to expose agenda ish as well as promote it. Im not making excuses or under any illusions, but she does appear to be enough of a free-spirit that she might actually be in danger. Shes unique in a way that resonates with people the agenda wishes to incorporate, but if her mind gets spoken too often, that might be curtains for Cardi B. At least she did say that if Tomi Lahren didn't leave her alone, she would dog walk her.... and I believe she meant it!
 

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I don't know what bill gates has to do with anything I said to you, but okay.
Look if it helps you get a better nights sleep I will concede that what I posted wasn't correct.

The reason I posted the link was to show you the average age of a "device" user is now 10.3 years. Furthermore, Bill Gates himself is well aware of the detrimental effects of his own products so he doesn't allow his nearest and dearest to own one.

What does that say to you?

You can wax lyrical as much as you want but the strength of your argument rests on the very weak premise that large numbers of young people around the world are NOT accessing this type of material.

I'm caling you out on that one. You see kids don't have to "find" this tyoe of material, it finds them. Through algorithms a users suggestons will be filtered , that's how it works. Anybody who watches one Scissor Sisters video will be automatically offered that artists other material.... now you have kids watching scenes of satanic ritual abuse....are you ok with that?.....Let's just day it happens 20 times a day....is that acceptable?

What could be the possible repercussions to a young child witnessing that type of material?....even accidentally.
 

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Look if it helps you get a better nights sleep I will concede that what I posted wasn't correct.

The reason I posted the link was to show you the average age of a "device" user is now 10.3 years. Furthermore, Bill Gates himself is well aware of the detrimental effects of his own products so he doesn't allow his nearest and dearest to own one.

What does that say to you?

You can wax lyrical as much as you want but the strength of your argument rests on the very weak premise that large numbers of young people around the world are NOT accessing this type of material.

I'm caling you out on that one. You see kids don't have to "find" this tyoe of material, it finds them. Through algorithms a users suggestons will be filtered , that's how it works. Anybody who watches one Scissor Sisters video will be automatically offered that artists other material.... now you have kids watching scenes of satanic ritual abuse....are you ok with that?.....Let's just day it happens 20 times a day....is that acceptable?

What could be the possible repercussions to a young child witnessing that type of material?....even accidentally.
You are only incorrect on a technicality.
We all know (and have clearly shown in this very thread) that an "age restricted video" is merely a legality-covering designation and if anything (as evidenced by the "Parental Advisory" music stickers of yore), its a major point of interest for the youth. "MeccHex" knows this all too well so while I salute you for going the high road and admitting that you were factually incorrect, the point still stands.....
 

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I think shes been called cardi B before she entered the industry. Its a NYC Hip-Hop/gang nickname. Shes a wierd one because on one hand, she pushes an agenda to the hilt, but Im not sure how aware she even is of this. For her, open violence and sexuality are just what she has been raised around. But on the other hand, she says things other artists wont/cant express and her lack of filter seems to expose agenda ish as well as promote it. Im not making excuses or under any illusions, but she does appear to be enough of a free-spirit that she might actually be in danger. Shes unique in a way that resonates with people the agenda wishes to incorporate, but if her mind gets spoken too often, that might be curtains for Cardi B. At least she did say that if Tomi Lahren didn't leave her alone, she would dog walk her.... and I believe she meant it!
I think time will tell. The usual ending for this type of character is either death by hotel or getting suicided Once they have served their purpose if they don't tow the line they just accidentally die.

But if they get rewarded with a Vegas Residency it's usually for services rendered.
 
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