Sex positivity is a scam

morita

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I feel like the point of sex positivity and hook-up culture is to shame celibacy. Both are "extremes" but one is praised and the latter is seen as abnormal.
I still don't understand how getting choked, spit on or abused by random guys is empowering. It's not.
 
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Perhaps its the porn culture that has a hand in the abuse aspect?

Is there any celibacy involved in anything anymore? I thought that was ‘debunked’ way back when. Only the priests ‘practice’ that...probably gave it a worse name then.
 
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Definitely. It transforms sex into an act of hatred, rather than love.Not only the explicit violence that you mentioned, but hook up culture itself is an expression of hatred for humanity. It is sacrificing others for your own benefit.

30 years ago you couldnt even pay prostitutes to do the things that young women are expected to do today. Truly heartbreaking. And women have been conditioned to believe that destroying their dignity in this way is "empowering".
 

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Yeah.

Some people are Asexual.
Seems like there is no place for them anymore.

Also, if you are not doing 'everything' sexual, with every possible orifice, then it is implied that there is something wring with you, and you have 'hang ups', or are frigid, or some other perjorative term.

(general 'you' used throughout, no specific person meant)
 

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When a man and a woman come together they become one flesh. There is a soul tie formed every time someone sleeps with another. Sex is not just physical there is metaphysical ties and two come together and form a bond on a spiritual level.

1Cor 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

There are studies that show that the more sexual partners an individual has, the harder it is for them to successfully pair bond and settle down with one person. They go through life in failed short term relationships and marriages. That is, because they have formed so many soul ties(strength of the soul tie to each individual varies) that they are fragmented with a part of them belonging to each and every individual they ever formed a soul tie with.
 

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Look into DNA imprinting. Women can carry the DNA of all the men that they have slept with
 

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Is there any celibacy involved in anything anymore? I thought that was ‘debunked’ way back when. Only the priests ‘practice’ that...probably gave it a worse name then.
I'm pretty sure there still are voluntary celibates but they aren't vocal about it because of how others react to it. It's hard to go against social norms and most don't want to be exposed to stigma and jugdements. People just assume there's something wrong with you.
 

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I'm pretty sure there still are voluntary celibates but they aren't vocal about it because of how others react to it. It's hard to go against social norms and most don't want to be exposed to stigma and jugdements. People just assume there's something wrong with you.
Maybe...but its more than likely most have had sex.
 

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The reason why many cannot get out of abusive relationships is, because of an ungodly soul tie.
 

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Do yall think that the point of "sex positivity" label is to shame celibacy? And to push women into hook-up culture, into sending nudes, pornifying yourself..etc.
I still don't understand how getting choked, spit on or abused by random guys is empowering. It's not.
It's more serious than just shaming celibacy... it's about corrupting and destroying souls.
 

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I don't think the movement is "shaming celibacy" but I do think it means to undermine the purpose of sex (and no it's not just for procreation). Rather it's intent within marriage and why God said it should be kept within marriage. It is a movement that is as old as eden which asks the question "did God really say this?" Then comes up with all sorts of rational to justify everything from polygamy to adult entertainment that can range from vanilla sex to BDSM.
There is nothing wrong with having a positive attitude toward sex within the context of which it was intended. The bigger question is if erotica is bad, why is it in the Bible? What is God trying to say by including topics like Song of Songs or the wife of Hosea who was known as a prostitute (look up Gomer) in the Bible. I think... that God is trying to say something about us as humans, the Bible is full of stories involving lust, sex, polygamy, etc. So nothing new is under the sun, and I think that's why this movement is really taken hold.
Paul says he's driven by two natures, he has a thorn in his side. Scholars never quite knew what it was but assumed it was some type of sexual sin.
Sex positive people don't want to put the word sex and sin in the same group, yet for some reason God said that outside of marriage it is a sin. Paul later warns new Christians of the dangers of sexual immorality, and pays particular attention to it in the book of Corinthians. Chances are he knew full well what went on in the temples between priestesses and "worshippers", it's the same stuff that happens in progressive cities like Amsterdam. ;). In all seriousness, if that is the only way you knew before converting then Christianity is a massive change. It is counter-culture. God.. is counter-culture. It's a paradigm shift.
Anything that is worldly can be seen as an attack on the godly, but sex in and of itself within the context of marriage is GODLY. It is the symbol of a new family, a new life, leaving the old life behind and starting together in a new family. It is both a maturation, and the beginning of maturation. It is renewing of a bond, that's why in some contexts its called "consummating" the marriage. To Consummate, means to validate. To make the union between people a new thing, a singular thing.
I think Christians have to be careful not to turn this gift from God into something evil by demonizing it. We should celebrate it, teach it to our kids in the proper context, and help them become wise, discerning adults who will then be able to see through the lies because they know the truth in their heart. They also need to be compassionate to those people caught up in the web of lies about sex and human desire, to help them break free and discover their identity is not in sex but in who they were created to be.

I also want to add a notation about the article posted above. The sex may have been consensual but consent ends when something happens which the woman or man did not consent to originally. The man or woman should not be made to feel guilty or punished for revoking consent by their partner, if they do feel that way, that is a massive red flag of something more serious. Sex positivity does cover this aspect as well. Again I stress if the violence is UNWANTED (as stated in the title of that article) then consent is revoked. If a partner must be violent or do things that degrade a woman or man and make them feel uncomfortable, or worse ashamed, abused, insecure, weak, less than human... the problem is not with the woman or man but with the person doing it to them. Again RED FLAG FUCKERS. Break up, break it off, and if you are married, Please PLEASE get counseling and help. The person that is doing this has a messed up sex compass and needs therapy not validation to keep doing it. I hate to say it, but women like this end up losing more than just their pride or self-worth. Sometimes when the person isn't satisfied with them, they attack their children.
We literally just had two young children in our community one aged 2 the other only 21 months sent to the ER because they were RAPED by the mother's boyfriends who were BABYSITTING. The two year old died from her injuries, the other victim was rushed to the tier 1 hospital in Tampa.

Please please please pass this on, if you have friends, girlfriends, boyfriends, anyone who you know is in an abusive situation (and I consider this abuse) encourage them to get help and get away from the abuser.
 
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morita

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I also want to add a notation about the article posted above. The sex may have been consensual but consent ends when something happens which the woman or man did not consent to originally. The man or woman should not be made to feel guilty or punished for revoking consent by their partner, if they do feel that way, that is a massive red flag of something more serious. Sex positivity does cover this aspect as well. Again I stress if the violence is UNWANTED (as stated in the title of that article) then consent is revoked. If a partner must be violent or do things that degrade a woman or man and make them feel uncomfortable, or worse ashamed, abused, insecure, weak, less than human... the problem is not with the woman or man but with the person doing it to them. Again RED FLAG FUCKERS. Break up, break it off, and if you are married, Please PLEASE get counseling and help.
The problem is never with the person being abused I agree. But most women are going from one abusive sexual partner to another.(Another article I wanted to add was one that said a bunch of women never had an orgasm after years of being in a relationship with their boyfriend or husband). Clearly I don't see the point in partaking in a culture (hook-up culture/ porn culture) that doesn't support you.

We literally just had two young children in our community one aged 2 the other only 21 months sent to the ER because they were RAPED by the mother's boyfriends who were BABYSITTING. The two year old died from her injuries, the other victim was rushed to the tier 1 hospital in Tampa.
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Sometimes women also enable their boyfriends/husband to abuse their children. They see it but don't do anything to stop them. They're just as guilty as the male abusers.
 
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