The Protocols of Zion Fantasy VS Real Islamic Hate Speech & Islamo-fascism

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I am starting this thread as a counter balance to the Protocols Of Zion thread.

You will not read this or hear of this in the news, and especially not from progressives, liberals, or PC people. I used to think that Islamo-fascism/terrorism was simply a synthetic threat made up by the Western governments, until I have read some of their writings more deeply. I believe this threat is being used and amplified to divide people, and is not completely made up to stir up hatred. This thread is not to foment hatred against Muslims but to raise awareness of real issues as opposed to made up documents such as the Protocols of Zion.

Here are a few quotes.

"We have ruled the world before and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews -- even the stones and the trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and the trees will want to finish off every Jew."
-Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, employee of Palestinian authority on a televised sermon

“It’s only a matter of time until we rule Earth, until we control Earth.”
“In the end of the day, Islam must control Earth whether we like it or not it’s a promise from the prophet.”

On Iranian TV– Momaoun Al-Tamimi – Political Consultant (May 2004)

“From yourself we’ll make your destruction because Allah’s tradition will prevail on this earth.”
Mohanoud Ahmadinejan – Iranian President (July, 2004)

“We succeeded, with Allah’s grace, to raise an ideological generation that loves death like our enemies love life."
Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi (2001)

“Jihad means to struggle – the struggle within – but so does Mein Kampf.”
Walid Shoebat

“A - . . . Are you familiar with the Jews?
G - Yes.
A – Do you like them?
G – No.
A – Why don’t you like them?
G – Because.
A – Because they are whats?
G – They’re apes and pigs.
A – Who said they are so?
G – Our God.
A – Where did He say this?
G – In the Koran.”

Sheik Dr. Bakr Al-Samarai (February, 2003)

“What makes Allah happy? Allah’s happy when (non-Muslims) get killed.”
“You see the Islamic rule, if a Kuffar (non-Muslims) goes into a Muslim country. And he’s walking by. He’s like a cow; boy, anybody could take him. That is the Islamic rule and this is the opinion of Islam. It’s not my opinion. If you read the books of jihad, you’ll see . . . A Kuffar is walking by, he walks inside – you catch him. “What are you doing here?” Then he’s a booty, you can sell him in the market. If Muslims cannot take him, you know, and sell him in the market then you just kill him. It’s okay.”
“It’s only a matter of time until we rule Earth, until we control Earth.”
“In the end of the day, Islam must control Earth whether we like it or not it’s a promis from the prophet.”

On Iranian TV– Momaoun Al-Tamimi – Political Consultant

Anti-semitism in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabian media often attacks Jews in books, news articles, at their Mosques and with what some describe as antisemitic satire. Saudi Arabian government officials and state religious leaders often promote the idea that Jews are conspiring to take over the entire world; as proof of their claims they publish and frequently cite The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as factual.[1][2]

Antisemitism in public administration
Barring people with either Israeli passports or Israeli stamps in their passport from visiting Saudi Arabia, has been a long-established practice.[3] When in February 2004, Saudi Arabia started issuing visas to non-Muslims for the first time, in order to attract more foreign visitors, the website of the Saudi Arabian Supreme Commission for Tourism initially stated that Jews would not be granted tourist visas to enter the country.[4][5] The discriminatory stipulation was widely reported and drew strong criticism, renewing the notion of Saudi Arabia being a "backward country".[3] Subsequently, the Saudi embassy in the U.S. distanced itself from the statement, apologizing for posting "erroneous information", which was later removed.[6][7]

Members of religions other than Islam, including Jews, are not permitted to practice their religion publicly in Saudi Arabia; according to the U.S. State Department,[8] religious freedom "does not exist" in Saudi Arabia. Islam is the official religion of Saudi Arabia, and the tenets of that religion are enforced by law.[9]

Antisemitism in school textbooks
Main article: Saudi-Arabian textbook controversy

Saudi textbooks vilify Jews (and Christians and non-Wahhabi Muslims): according to 21 May 2006 issue of The Washington Post, Saudi textbooks claimed by them to have been sanitized of antisemitism still call Jews apes (and Christians swine); demand that students avoid and not befriend Jews; claim that Jews worship the devil; and encourage Muslims to engage in Jihad to vanquish Jews.[10]

The Center for Religious Freedom of Freedom House analyzed a set of Saudi Ministry of Education textbooks in Islamic studies courses for elementary and secondary school students. The researchers found statements promoting hatred of Christians, Jews, "polytheists" and other "unbelievers," including non-Wahabi Muslims. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was taught as historical fact. The texts described Jews and Christians as enemies of Muslim believers and the clash between them as an ongoing fight that will end in victory over the Jews. Jews were blamed for virtually all the "subversion" and wars of the modern world.[11] A "38-page overview" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 2007-09-25. (371 KB) of Saudi Arabia's curriculum has been released to the press by the Hudson Institute.

Antisemitism in Saudi media
Saudi Arabian media often attacks Jews in books, news articles, at their Mosques and with what some describe as antisemitic satire. Saudi Arabian government officials and state religious leaders often promote the idea that Jews are conspiring to take over the entire world; as proof of their claims they publish and frequently cite The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as factual.[1][2]

One Saudi Arabian government newspaper suggested that hatred of all Jews is justifiable. "Why are they (the Jews) hated by all the people which hosted them, such as Iraq and Egypt thousands years ago, and Germany, Spain, France and the UK, up to the days they gained of power over the capital and the press, in order to rewrite the history?"[12]

Even during the height of the Saudi crackdown on extremism in 2004, a Saudi IQRA TV "man on the street" segment on feelings toward Jews, was entirely antagonistic. Interviewees described Jews as "our eternal enemies", "murderous", "the enemies of Allah and His Prophet," "murderers of prophets," "the filthiest people on the face of this earth", etc.[13] [14]

In 2001, Arab Radio and Television of Saudi Arabia produced a 30-part television miniseries entitled "Horseman Without a Horse", a dramatization of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[15] One Saudi Arabian government newspaper suggested that hatred of all Jews is justifiable.[16]

Antisemitism in religious circles
Antisemitism is common within religious circles. Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, the imam of the Grand mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, has been described as an antisemite[17][18] for publicly praying to God to 'terminate' the Jews[19]

The BBC aired a Panorama episode, entitled A Question of Leadership, which reported that Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, the leading imam of the Grand mosque located in the Islamic holy city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia,[20][21] referred to Jews as "the scum of the human race" and "offspring of apes and pigs". Al-Sudais further stated: "the worst [...] of the enemies of Islam are those [...] whom he [...] made monkeys and pigs, the aggressive Jews and oppressive Zionists and those that follow them [...] Monkeys and pigs and worshippers of false Gods who are the Jews and the Zionists." In another sermon, on 19 April 2002, he declared that Jews are "evil offspring, infidels, distorters of [others'] words, calf-worshippers, prophet-murderers, prophecy-deniers [...] the scum of the human race whom Allah cursed and turned into apes and pigs [...]"
[22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Saudi_Arabia

17th century
One of the most prominent acts of Islamic anti-semitism took place in Yemen between 1679–1680, in an event known as the Mawza Exile. During this event the Jews living in nearly all cities and towns throughout Yemen were banished by decree of the Imam of Yemen, Al-Mahdi Ahmad.[114]

20th century
The massacres of Jews in Muslim countries continued into the 20th century. The Jewish quarter in Fez was almost destroyed by a Muslim mob in 1912.[118] There were Nazi-inspired pogroms in Algeria in the 1930s, and massive attacks on the Jews in Iraq and Libya in the 1940s (see Farhud). Pro-Nazi Muslims slaughtered dozens of Jews in Baghdad in 1941.[118]

American academic Bernard Lewis and others have charged that standard antisemitic themes have become commonplace in the publications of Arab Islamic movements such as Hizbullah and Hamas, in the pronouncements of various agencies of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and even in the newspapers and other publications of Refah Partisi, the Turkish Islamic party whose head served as prime minister in 1996–97."[112] Lewis has also written that the language of abuse is often quite strong, arguing that the conventional epithets for Jews and Christians are apes and pigs, respectively.[120]

On March 1, 1994, Rashid Baz, an American Muslim living in Brooklyn, New York, shot at a van carrying Hassidic Jewish students over the Brooklyn Bridge. The students were returning to Brooklyn after visiting their ailing leader, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, who suffered a stroke two years earlier. Ari Halberstam, one of the students, was killed. Others were wounded. Baz was quoted in his confession in 2007 as saying, "I only shot them because they were Jewish."

Connections between Nazi Germany and Muslim countries

Burning synagogue in Aleppo in 1947.

Some Arabs found common cause with Nazi Germany against colonial regimes in the region. The influence of the Nazis in the Arab world grew during the 1930s.[121] Egypt, Syria, and Iran are claimed to have harbored Nazi war criminals, though they have rejected the charge.[122] With the recruiting help of the Grand Mufti al-Husseini, the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar, formed mostly of Muslims in 1943, was the first non-Germanic SSdivision.[123]

Mohammad Amin al-Husayni[edit]

Al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the chairman of the Supreme Islamic Council and Adolf Hitler, 1941

Main article: Haj Amin al-Husseini

The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini attempted to create an alliance with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy to obstruct the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and hinder any emigration by Jewish refugees from the Holocaust there.

Historians debate to what extent al-Husseini's fierce opposition to Zionism was grounded in nationalism or antisemitism or a combination of both.[124]

On March 31, 1933, within weeks of Hitler's rise to power in Germany, al-Husayni sent a telegram to Berlin addressed to the German Consul-General in the British Mandate of Palestine saying that Muslims in Palestine and elsewhere looked forward to spreading their ideology in the Middle East. Al-Husseini secretly met the German Consul-General near the Dead Sea in 1933 and expressed his approval of the anti-Jewish boycott in Germany and asked him not to send any Jews to Palestine. Later that year, the Mufti's assistants approached Wolff,[who?] seeking his help in establishing an Arab National Socialist party in Palestine. Reports reaching the foreign offices in Berlin showed high levels of Arab admiration of Hitler.[125]

Al-Husseini met the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop on November 20, 1941, and was officially received by Hitler on November 30, 1941, in Berlin.[126] He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that it would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland", and he submitted to the German government a draft of such a declaration, containing the clause.[127]


Al-Husseini inspects Islamic Waffen SS recruits, 1943

Husayni aided the Axis cause in the Middle East by issuing a fatwa for a holy war against Britain in May 1941. The Mufti's widely heralded proclamation against Britain was declared in Iraq, where he was instrumental in the anti-British Iraqi revolt of 1941.[128] During the war, the Mufti repeatedly made requests to "the German government to bomb Tel Aviv".[129]

Al-Husseini was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions of the Waffen SS and other units.[130] and also blessed sabotage teams trained by Germans before they were dispatched to Palestine, Iraq, and Transjordan.[131]

Iraq
In March 1940, General Rashid Ali, a nationalist Iraqi officer forced the pro-British Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said Pasha, to resign.[132] In May, he declared jihad against Great Britain. Forty days later, British troops occupied the country. The 1941 Iraqi coup d'état occurred on April 3, 1941, when the regime of the Regent 'Abd al-Ilah was overthrown, and Rashid Ali was installed as Prime Minister.[133]

In 1941, following Rashid Ali's pro-Axis coup, riots known as the Farhud broke out in Baghdad in which approximately 180 Jews were killed and about 240 were wounded, 586 Jewish-owned businesses were looted and 99 Jewish houses were destroyed.[134]


Mass grave of victims of the Farhud, 1941.

Iraq initially forbade the emigration of its Jews after the 1948 war on the grounds that allowing them to go to Israel would strengthen that state, but they were allowed to emigrate again after 1950, if they agreed to forgo their assets.
[135]

21st century
France is home to Europe's largest population of Muslims—about 6 million—as well as the continent's largest community of Jews, about 600,000. In 2000, Muslims attacked synagogues in retaliation for damage done to their Muslim brethren in the Palestinian territories. (See also: Second Intifada) Many Jews protested, the acts were declared "Muslim antisemitism". By 2007, however, attacks were much less severe, and an "all-clear" was perceived.[153] However, during the 2008–2009 Gaza War, tensions between the two communities increased and there were several dozen reported instances of violence such as arson and assaults. French Jewish leaders complained of "a diffuse kind of anti-Semitism becoming entrenched in the Muslim community" while Muslim leaders responded that the issues were "political rather than religious" and that Muslim anger is "not against Jews, it's against Israel".[154]

On July 28, 2006, at around 4:00 p.m. Pacific time, the Seattle Jewish Federation shooting occurred when Naveed Afzal Haq shot six women, one fatally, at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle building in the Belltown neighborhood of Seattle, Washington, United States. He shouted, "I'm a Muslim American; I'm angry at Israel" before he began his shooting spree. Police have classified the shooting as a hate crime based on what Haq said during a 9-1-1 call.[155] In 2012, the Palestinian Authority Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammad Ahmad Hussein, citing Hadiths, called for the killing of all Jews.[156][157][158]

In Egypt, Dar al-Fadhilah published a translation of Henry Ford's antisemitic treatise, The International Jew, complete with distinctly antisemitic imagery on the cover.[159]

In 2014 the Anti-Defamation League published a global survey of worldwide antisemitic attitudes, reporting that in the Middle East, 74% of adults agreed with a majority of the survey's eleven antisemitic propositions, including that "Jews have too much power in international financial markets" and that "Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars."[160][161]

Antisemitic comments by Muslim leaders and scholars

Saudi school books
A May 2006 study of Saudi Arabia's revised schoolbook curriculum discovered that the eighth grade books included the following statements,[162]

“They are the people of the Sabbath, whose young people God turned into apes, and whose old people God turned into swine to punish them. As cited in Ibn Abbas: The apes are Jews, the keepers of the Sabbath; while the swine are the Christian infidels of the communion of Jesus.”

“Some of the people of the Sabbath were punished by being turned into apes and swine. Some of them were made to worship the devil, and not God, through consecration, sacrifice, prayer, appeals for help, and other types of worship. Some of the Jews worship the devil. Likewise, some members of this nation worship devil, and not God.”

Heads of American publishing houses have issued a statement asking the Saudi government to delete the "hate".[163]

Reconciliation efforts
In Western countries, some Islamic groups and individual Muslims have made efforts to reconcile with the Jewish community through dialogue and to oppose antisemitism. For instance, in Britain there is the group Muslims Against Anti-Semitism.[164][165] Islamic studies scholar Tariq Ramadan has been outspoken against antisemitism, stating: "In the name of their faith and conscience, Muslims must take a clear position so that a pernicious atmosphere does not take hold in the Western countries. Nothing in Islam can legitimize xenophobia or the rejection of a human being due to his/her religious creed or ethnicity. One must say unequivocally, with force, that anti-Semitism is unacceptable and indefensible."[166] Mohammad Khatami, former president of Iran, declared antisemitism to be a "Western phenomena", having no precedents in Islam and stating the Muslims and Jews had lived harmoniously in the past. An Iranian newspaper stated that has been hatred and hostility in history, but conceded that one must distinguish Jews from Zionists.[112]

In North America, the Council on American-Islamic Relations has spoken against some antisemitic violence, such as the 2006 Seattle Jewish Federation shooting.[167] According to the Anti-Defamation League, CAIR has also been affiliated with antisemitic organizations such as Hamas and Hizbollah.[168]

The Saudi mufti, Shaykh Abd al-Aziz Bin Baz, gave a fatwa ruling that negotiating peace with Israel is permissible, as is the cist to Jerusalem by Muslims. He specifically said:

“The Prophet made absolute peace with the Jews of Medina when he went there as an immigrant. That did not entail any love for them or amiability with them. But the Prophet dealt with them, buying from them, talking to them, calling them to God and Islam. When he died, his shield was mortgaged to a Jew, for he had mortgaged it to buy food for his family.
Martin Kramer considers that as "an explicit endorsement of normal relations with Jews".[10]

Trends
According to Norman Stillman, Antisemitism in the Muslim world increased greatly for more than two decades following 1948 but "peaked by the 1970s, and declined somewhat as the slow process of rapprochement between the Arab world and the state of Israel evolved in the 1980s and 1990s".[11] Johannes J. G. Jansen believes that antisemitism will have no future in the Arab world in the long run. In his view, like other imports from the Western World, antisemitism is unable to establish itself in the private lives of Muslims.[169] In 2004 Khaleel Mohammed said, "Anti-Semitism has become an entrenched tenet of Muslim theology, taught to 95 per cent of the religion's adherents in the Islamic world," a claim immediately dismissed as false and racist by Muslim leaders, who accused Mohammed of destroying efforts at relationship building between Jews and Muslims.[170][171] In 2010, Moshe Ma'oz, Professor Emeritus of Islamic and Middle Eastern Studies at The Hebrew University, edited a book questioning the common perception Islam is antisemitic or anti-Israel, and maintaining that most Arab regimes and most leading Muslim clerics have a pragmatic attitude to Israel.[172]

According to professor Robert Wistrich, director of the Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism (SICSA), the calls for the destruction of Israel by Iran or by Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, or the Muslim Brotherhood, represent a contemporary mode of genocidal anti-Semitism.[173]

According to the Pew Global Attitudes Project released on August 14, 2005, high percentages of the populations of six Muslim-majority countries have negative views of Jews. To a questionnaire asking respondents to give their views of members of various religions along a spectrum from "very favorable" to "very unfavorable", 60% of Turks, 74% of Pakistanis, 76% of Indonesians, 88% of Moroccans, 99% of Lebanese Muslims and 100% of Jordanians checked either "somewhat unfavorable" or "very unfavorable" for Jews.[174][175]

Islamic antisemitism in Europe
A 2017 report by the University of Oslo Center for Research on Extremism tentatively suggests that "individuals of Muslim background stand out among perpetrators of antisemitic violence in Western Europe".[176]

The Netherlands
Further information: Antisemitism in the Netherlands

In the Netherlands, antisemitic incidents, from verbal abuse to violence, are reported, allegedly connected with Islamic youth, mostly boys from Moroccan descent. A phrase made popular during football matches against the so-called Jewish football club Ajax has been adopted by Muslim youth and is frequently heard at pro-Palestinian demonstrations: "Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas!" According to the Centre for Information and Documentation on Israel, a pro-Israel lobby group in the Netherlands, in 2009, the number of anti-Semitic incidents in Amsterdam, the city that is home to most of the approximately 40,000 Dutch Jews, was said to be doubled compared to 2008.[177] In 2010, Raphael Evers, an orthodox rabbi in Amsterdam, told the Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten that Jews can no longer be safe in the city anymore due to the risk of violent assaults. "Jews no longer feel at home in the city. Many are considering aliyah to Israel."[178]

Belgium
Further information: Antisemitism in Belgium, 1980 Antwerp summer camp attack, and Jewish Museum of Belgium shooting

There were recorded well over a hundred antisemitic attacks in Belgium in 2009. This was a 100% increase from the year before. The perpetrators were usually young males of immigrant background from the Middle East. In 2009, the Belgian city of Antwerp, often referred to as Europe's last shtetl, experienced a surge in antisemitic violence. Bloeme Evers-Emden, an Amsterdam resident and Auschwitz survivor, was quoted in the newspaper Aftenposten in 2010: "The antisemitism now is even worse than before the Holocaust. The antisemitism has become more violent. Now they are threatening to kill us."[178]

France
Further information: Antisemitism in France

In 2004, France experienced rising levels of Islamic antisemitism and acts that were publicized around the world.[179][180][181] In 2006, rising levels of antisemitism were recorded in French schools. Reports related to the tensions between the children of North African Muslim immigrants and North African Jewish children.[181] The climax was reached when Ilan Halimi was tortured to death by the so-called "Barbarians gang", led by Youssouf Fofana. In 2007, over 7,000 members of the community petitioned for asylum in the United States, citing antisemitism in France.[182]

Between 2001 and 2005, an estimated 12,000 French Jews took Aliyah to Israel. Several émigrés cited antisemitism and the growing Arab population as reasons for leaving.[183] At a welcoming ceremony for French Jews in the summer of 2004, then Israeli Prime MinisterAriel Sharon caused controversy when he advised all French Jews to "move immediately" to Israel and escape what he coined "the wildest anti-semitism" in France.[184][185][186][187]

In the first half of 2009, an estimated 631 recorded acts of antisemitism took place in France, more than the whole of 2008.[188] Speaking to the World Jewish Congress in December 2009, the French Interior Minister Hortefeux described the acts of antisemitism as "a poison to our republic". He also announced that he would appoint a special coordinator for fighting racism and antisemitism.[189]

Rises in antisemitism in modern France have been linked to the intensifying Israeli–Palestinian conflict.[190] Since the Gaza War in 2009, decreases in antisemitism have been reversed. A report compiled by the Coordination Forum for Countering Anti-Semitism singled out France in particular among Western countries for antisemitism.[191] Between the start of the Israeli offensive in Gaza in late December and the end of it in January, an estimated hundred antisemitic acts were recorded in France. This compares with a total of 250 antisemitic acts in the whole of 2007.[190] In 2012, Mohammed Merah killed four Jews, including three children, at the Ozar HaTorah Jewish school in Toulouse. Shortly after the Charlie Hebdo shooting in 2015, Amedy Coulibaly murdered four Jewish patrons of a Kosher supermarket in Paris and held fifteen people hostage in the Porte de Vincennes siege. In response to these high-profile attacks, Jewish immigration to Israel from France increased by 20%, to 5,100 per year, between 2014 and 2015.[192]

Germany
According to a 2012 survey, 18% of the Turks in Germany believe Jews are inferior human beings.[193][194] A similar study found that most of Germany's native born Muslim youth and children of immigrants have antisemitic views.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism
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"40 per cent want shari’ah in Britain for Muslims; 33 per cent favour a worldwide Islamic caliphate; 24 per cent think men and women are not equal; 32 per cent believe killing in the name of religion is justified; 33 per cent don’t think Islam is compatible with democracy…The reason for this digression is not to provide an insight into the warped mindset of those who believe ‘Islam is the solution’ — much as Adolf Hitler thought he had found the ‘final solution’ to rid the world of Jews and Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thinks god has willed him to complete Hitler’s unfinished task — but to highlight the danger posed by those who see nothing wrong with the fringe increasingly occupying the centre. The lib-left intelligentsia, whose criminal disregard of facts and aggressive peddling of fiction often persuades ill-informed and ill-intentioned journalists to suppress the truth, wants society to be tolerant of Islamofascism; to indulge the Muslim cult of denial; and, to gloss over incidents like serial bombings and suicide attacks. Those who refuse to do so are accused of Islamophobia…"

http://www.dailypioneer.com/agenda1.asp?main_variable=sundaypioneer/dialogue&file_name=dial1.txt&counter_img=1
 
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Using post colonial, nationalist driven Islamic revivalist ideas in an area of Israeli terrorism and mass propaganda as as proof

Using anti islam idiots as proof who are using either made up stats or using the above as their proof.

Meh, you sir are an absolute twat.

Prophet Mohammed saw had Jewish neighbours. He treated them like his neighbours.

40% of Muslims want shariah? Do you know what shariah means in the context of our civil rights? That is like saying 40% want halal.
 

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Islam is Death with Hell following him riding the sickly green 4th horse of the Apocalypse.
 
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I am starting this thread as a counter balance to the Protocols Of Zion thread.

You will not read this or hear of this in the news, and especially not from progressives, liberals, or PC people. I used to think that Islamo-fascism/terrorism was simply a synthetic threat made up by the Western governments, until I have read some of their writings more deeply. I believe this threat is being used and amplified to divide people, and is not completely made up to stir up hatred. This thread is not to foment hatred against Muslims but to raise awareness of real issues as opposed to made up documents such as the Protocols of Zion.

Here are a few quotes.

"We have ruled the world before and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again. The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we will rule Britain and the entire world - except for the Jews. The Jews will not enjoy a life of tranquility under our rule, because they are treacherous by nature, as they have been throughout history. The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews -- even the stones and the trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and the trees will want to finish off every Jew."
-Sheik Ibrahim Mudeiris, employee of Palestinian authority on a televised sermon

“It’s only a matter of time until we rule Earth, until we control Earth.”
“In the end of the day, Islam must control Earth whether we like it or not it’s a promise from the prophet.”

On Iranian TV– Momaoun Al-Tamimi – Political Consultant (May 2004)

“From yourself we’ll make your destruction because Allah’s tradition will prevail on this earth.”
Mohanoud Ahmadinejan – Iranian President (July, 2004)

“We succeeded, with Allah’s grace, to raise an ideological generation that loves death like our enemies love life."
Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi (2001)

“Jihad means to struggle – the struggle within – but so does Mein Kampf.”
Walid Shoebat

“A - . . . Are you familiar with the Jews?
G - Yes.
A – Do you like them?
G – No.
A – Why don’t you like them?
G – Because.
A – Because they are whats?
G – They’re apes and pigs.
A – Who said they are so?
G – Our God.
A – Where did He say this?
G – In the Koran.”

Sheik Dr. Bakr Al-Samarai (February, 2003)

“What makes Allah happy? Allah’s happy when (non-Muslims) get killed.”
“You see the Islamic rule, if a Kuffar (non-Muslims) goes into a Muslim country. And he’s walking by. He’s like a cow; boy, anybody could take him. That is the Islamic rule and this is the opinion of Islam. It’s not my opinion. If you read the books of jihad, you’ll see . . . A Kuffar is walking by, he walks inside – you catch him. “What are you doing here?” Then he’s a booty, you can sell him in the market. If Muslims cannot take him, you know, and sell him in the market then you just kill him. It’s okay.”
“It’s only a matter of time until we rule Earth, until we control Earth.”
“In the end of the day, Islam must control Earth whether we like it or not it’s a promis from the prophet.”

On Iranian TV– Momaoun Al-Tamimi – Political Consultant

Anti-semitism in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabian media often attacks Jews in books, news articles, at their Mosques and with what some describe as antisemitic satire. Saudi Arabian government officials and state religious leaders often promote the idea that Jews are conspiring to take over the entire world; as proof of their claims they publish and frequently cite The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as factual.[1][2]

Antisemitism in public administration
Barring people with either Israeli passports or Israeli stamps in their passport from visiting Saudi Arabia, has been a long-established practice.[3] When in February 2004, Saudi Arabia started issuing visas to non-Muslims for the first time, in order to attract more foreign visitors, the website of the Saudi Arabian Supreme Commission for Tourism initially stated that Jews would not be granted tourist visas to enter the country.[4][5] The discriminatory stipulation was widely reported and drew strong criticism, renewing the notion of Saudi Arabia being a "backward country".[3] Subsequently, the Saudi embassy in the U.S. distanced itself from the statement, apologizing for posting "erroneous information", which was later removed.[6][7]


Members of religions other than Islam, including Jews, are not permitted to practice their religion publicly in Saudi Arabia; according to the U.S. State Department,[8] religious freedom "does not exist" in Saudi Arabia. Islam is the official religion of Saudi Arabia, and the tenets of that religion are enforced by law.[9]

Antisemitism in school textbooks
Main article: Saudi-Arabian textbook controversy


Saudi textbooks vilify Jews (and Christians and non-Wahhabi Muslims): according to 21 May 2006 issue of The Washington Post, Saudi textbooks claimed by them to have been sanitized of antisemitism still call Jews apes (and Christians swine); demand that students avoid and not befriend Jews; claim that Jews worship the devil; and encourage Muslims to engage in Jihad to vanquish Jews.[10]

The Center for Religious Freedom of Freedom House analyzed a set of Saudi Ministry of Education textbooks in Islamic studies courses for elementary and secondary school students. The researchers found statements promoting hatred of Christians, Jews, "polytheists" and other "unbelievers," including non-Wahabi Muslims. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was taught as historical fact. The texts described Jews and Christians as enemies of Muslim believers and the clash between them as an ongoing fight that will end in victory over the Jews. Jews were blamed for virtually all the "subversion" and wars of the modern world.[11] A "38-page overview" (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 2007-09-25. (371 KB) of Saudi Arabia's curriculum has been released to the press by the Hudson Institute.

Antisemitism in Saudi media
Saudi Arabian media often attacks Jews in books, news articles, at their Mosques and with what some describe as antisemitic satire. Saudi Arabian government officials and state religious leaders often promote the idea that Jews are conspiring to take over the entire world; as proof of their claims they publish and frequently cite The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as factual.[1][2]


One Saudi Arabian government newspaper suggested that hatred of all Jews is justifiable. "Why are they (the Jews) hated by all the people which hosted them, such as Iraq and Egypt thousands years ago, and Germany, Spain, France and the UK, up to the days they gained of power over the capital and the press, in order to rewrite the history?"[12]

Even during the height of the Saudi crackdown on extremism in 2004, a Saudi IQRA TV "man on the street" segment on feelings toward Jews, was entirely antagonistic. Interviewees described Jews as "our eternal enemies", "murderous", "the enemies of Allah and His Prophet," "murderers of prophets," "the filthiest people on the face of this earth", etc.[13] [14]

In 2001, Arab Radio and Television of Saudi Arabia produced a 30-part television miniseries entitled "Horseman Without a Horse", a dramatization of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[15] One Saudi Arabian government newspaper suggested that hatred of all Jews is justifiable.[16]

Antisemitism in religious circles
Antisemitism is common within religious circles. Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, the imam of the Grand mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, has been described as an antisemite[17][18] for publicly praying to God to 'terminate' the Jews[19]


The BBC aired a Panorama episode, entitled A Question of Leadership, which reported that Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, the leading imam of the Grand mosque located in the Islamic holy city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia,[20][21] referred to Jews as "the scum of the human race" and "offspring of apes and pigs". Al-Sudais further stated: "the worst [...] of the enemies of Islam are those [...] whom he [...] made monkeys and pigs, the aggressive Jews and oppressive Zionists and those that follow them [...] Monkeys and pigs and worshippers of false Gods who are the Jews and the Zionists." In another sermon, on 19 April 2002, he declared that Jews are "evil offspring, infidels, distorters of [others'] words, calf-worshippers, prophet-murderers, prophecy-deniers [...] the scum of the human race whom Allah cursed and turned into apes and pigs [...]"[22]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Saudi_Arabia

17th century
One of the most prominent acts of Islamic anti-semitism took place in Yemen between 1679–1680, in an event known as the Mawza Exile. During this event the Jews living in nearly all cities and towns throughout Yemen were banished by decree of the Imam of Yemen, Al-Mahdi Ahmad.[114]

20th century
The massacres of Jews in Muslim countries continued into the 20th century. The Jewish quarter in Fez was almost destroyed by a Muslim mob in 1912.[118] There were Nazi-inspired pogroms in Algeria in the 1930s, and massive attacks on the Jews in Iraq and Libya in the 1940s (see Farhud). Pro-Nazi Muslims slaughtered dozens of Jews in Baghdad in 1941.[118]

American academic Bernard Lewis and others have charged that standard antisemitic themes have become commonplace in the publications of Arab Islamic movements such as Hizbullah and Hamas, in the pronouncements of various agencies of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and even in the newspapers and other publications of Refah Partisi, the Turkish Islamic party whose head served as prime minister in 1996–97."[112] Lewis has also written that the language of abuse is often quite strong, arguing that the conventional epithets for Jews and Christians are apes and pigs, respectively.[120]

On March 1, 1994, Rashid Baz, an American Muslim living in Brooklyn, New York, shot at a van carrying Hassidic Jewish students over the Brooklyn Bridge. The students were returning to Brooklyn after visiting their ailing leader, the Lubavitcher Rebbe, who suffered a stroke two years earlier. Ari Halberstam, one of the students, was killed. Others were wounded. Baz was quoted in his confession in 2007 as saying, "I only shot them because they were Jewish."

Connections between Nazi Germany and Muslim countries

Burning synagogue in Aleppo in 1947.


Some Arabs found common cause with Nazi Germany against colonial regimes in the region. The influence of the Nazis in the Arab world grew during the 1930s.[121] Egypt, Syria, and Iran are claimed to have harbored Nazi war criminals, though they have rejected the charge.[122] With the recruiting help of the Grand Mufti al-Husseini, the 13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar, formed mostly of Muslims in 1943, was the first non-Germanic SSdivision.[123]

Mohammad Amin al-Husayni[edit]

Al-Husseini, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the chairman of the Supreme Islamic Council and Adolf Hitler, 1941


Main article: Haj Amin al-Husseini

The Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini attempted to create an alliance with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy to obstruct the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and hinder any emigration by Jewish refugees from the Holocaust there.

Historians debate to what extent al-Husseini's fierce opposition to Zionism was grounded in nationalism or antisemitism or a combination of both.[124]

On March 31, 1933, within weeks of Hitler's rise to power in Germany, al-Husayni sent a telegram to Berlin addressed to the German Consul-General in the British Mandate of Palestine saying that Muslims in Palestine and elsewhere looked forward to spreading their ideology in the Middle East. Al-Husseini secretly met the German Consul-General near the Dead Sea in 1933 and expressed his approval of the anti-Jewish boycott in Germany and asked him not to send any Jews to Palestine. Later that year, the Mufti's assistants approached Wolff,[who?] seeking his help in establishing an Arab National Socialist party in Palestine. Reports reaching the foreign offices in Berlin showed high levels of Arab admiration of Hitler.[125]

Al-Husseini met the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop on November 20, 1941, and was officially received by Hitler on November 30, 1941, in Berlin.[126] He asked Hitler for a public declaration that "recognized and sympathized with the Arab struggles for independence and liberation, and that it would support the elimination of a national Jewish homeland", and he submitted to the German government a draft of such a declaration, containing the clause.[127]


Al-Husseini inspects Islamic Waffen SS recruits, 1943


Husayni aided the Axis cause in the Middle East by issuing a fatwa for a holy war against Britain in May 1941. The Mufti's widely heralded proclamation against Britain was declared in Iraq, where he was instrumental in the anti-British Iraqi revolt of 1941.[128] During the war, the Mufti repeatedly made requests to "the German government to bomb Tel Aviv".[129]

Al-Husseini was involved in the organization and recruitment of Bosnian Muslims into several divisions of the Waffen SS and other units.[130] and also blessed sabotage teams trained by Germans before they were dispatched to Palestine, Iraq, and Transjordan.[131]

Iraq
In March 1940, General Rashid Ali, a nationalist Iraqi officer forced the pro-British Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Said Pasha, to resign.[132] In May, he declared jihad against Great Britain. Forty days later, British troops occupied the country. The 1941 Iraqi coup d'état occurred on April 3, 1941, when the regime of the Regent 'Abd al-Ilah was overthrown, and Rashid Ali was installed as Prime Minister.[133]


In 1941, following Rashid Ali's pro-Axis coup, riots known as the Farhud broke out in Baghdad in which approximately 180 Jews were killed and about 240 were wounded, 586 Jewish-owned businesses were looted and 99 Jewish houses were destroyed.[134]


Mass grave of victims of the Farhud, 1941.


Iraq initially forbade the emigration of its Jews after the 1948 war on the grounds that allowing them to go to Israel would strengthen that state, but they were allowed to emigrate again after 1950, if they agreed to forgo their assets.[135]

21st century
France is home to Europe's largest population of Muslims—about 6 million—as well as the continent's largest community of Jews, about 600,000. In 2000, Muslims attacked synagogues in retaliation for damage done to their Muslim brethren in the Palestinian territories. (See also: Second Intifada) Many Jews protested, the acts were declared "Muslim antisemitism". By 2007, however, attacks were much less severe, and an "all-clear" was perceived.[153] However, during the 2008–2009 Gaza War, tensions between the two communities increased and there were several dozen reported instances of violence such as arson and assaults. French Jewish leaders complained of "a diffuse kind of anti-Semitism becoming entrenched in the Muslim community" while Muslim leaders responded that the issues were "political rather than religious" and that Muslim anger is "not against Jews, it's against Israel".[154]

On July 28, 2006, at around 4:00 p.m. Pacific time, the Seattle Jewish Federation shooting occurred when Naveed Afzal Haq shot six women, one fatally, at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle building in the Belltown neighborhood of Seattle, Washington, United States. He shouted, "I'm a Muslim American; I'm angry at Israel" before he began his shooting spree. Police have classified the shooting as a hate crime based on what Haq said during a 9-1-1 call.[155] In 2012, the Palestinian Authority Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Muhammad Ahmad Hussein, citing Hadiths, called for the killing of all Jews.[156][157][158]

In Egypt, Dar al-Fadhilah published a translation of Henry Ford's antisemitic treatise, The International Jew, complete with distinctly antisemitic imagery on the cover.[159]

In 2014 the Anti-Defamation League published a global survey of worldwide antisemitic attitudes, reporting that in the Middle East, 74% of adults agreed with a majority of the survey's eleven antisemitic propositions, including that "Jews have too much power in international financial markets" and that "Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars."[160][161]

Antisemitic comments by Muslim leaders and scholars

Saudi school books
A May 2006 study of Saudi Arabia's revised schoolbook curriculum discovered that the eighth grade books included the following statements,[162]


“They are the people of the Sabbath, whose young people God turned into apes, and whose old people God turned into swine to punish them. As cited in Ibn Abbas: The apes are Jews, the keepers of the Sabbath; while the swine are the Christian infidels of the communion of Jesus.”

“Some of the people of the Sabbath were punished by being turned into apes and swine. Some of them were made to worship the devil, and not God, through consecration, sacrifice, prayer, appeals for help, and other types of worship. Some of the Jews worship the devil. Likewise, some members of this nation worship devil, and not God.”

Heads of American publishing houses have issued a statement asking the Saudi government to delete the "hate".[163]

Reconciliation efforts
In Western countries, some Islamic groups and individual Muslims have made efforts to reconcile with the Jewish community through dialogue and to oppose antisemitism. For instance, in Britain there is the group Muslims Against Anti-Semitism.[164][165] Islamic studies scholar Tariq Ramadan has been outspoken against antisemitism, stating: "In the name of their faith and conscience, Muslims must take a clear position so that a pernicious atmosphere does not take hold in the Western countries. Nothing in Islam can legitimize xenophobia or the rejection of a human being due to his/her religious creed or ethnicity. One must say unequivocally, with force, that anti-Semitism is unacceptable and indefensible."[166] Mohammad Khatami, former president of Iran, declared antisemitism to be a "Western phenomena", having no precedents in Islam and stating the Muslims and Jews had lived harmoniously in the past. An Iranian newspaper stated that has been hatred and hostility in history, but conceded that one must distinguish Jews from Zionists.[112]


In North America, the Council on American-Islamic Relations has spoken against some antisemitic violence, such as the 2006 Seattle Jewish Federation shooting.[167] According to the Anti-Defamation League, CAIR has also been affiliated with antisemitic organizations such as Hamas and Hizbollah.[168]

The Saudi mufti, Shaykh Abd al-Aziz Bin Baz, gave a fatwa ruling that negotiating peace with Israel is permissible, as is the cist to Jerusalem by Muslims. He specifically said:

“The Prophet made absolute peace with the Jews of Medina when he went there as an immigrant. That did not entail any love for them or amiability with them. But the Prophet dealt with them, buying from them, talking to them, calling them to God and Islam. When he died, his shield was mortgaged to a Jew, for he had mortgaged it to buy food for his family.
Martin Kramer considers that as "an explicit endorsement of normal relations with Jews".[10]

Trends
According to Norman Stillman, Antisemitism in the Muslim world increased greatly for more than two decades following 1948 but "peaked by the 1970s, and declined somewhat as the slow process of rapprochement between the Arab world and the state of Israel evolved in the 1980s and 1990s".[11] Johannes J. G. Jansen believes that antisemitism will have no future in the Arab world in the long run. In his view, like other imports from the Western World, antisemitism is unable to establish itself in the private lives of Muslims.[169] In 2004 Khaleel Mohammed said, "Anti-Semitism has become an entrenched tenet of Muslim theology, taught to 95 per cent of the religion's adherents in the Islamic world," a claim immediately dismissed as false and racist by Muslim leaders, who accused Mohammed of destroying efforts at relationship building between Jews and Muslims.[170][171] In 2010, Moshe Ma'oz, Professor Emeritus of Islamic and Middle Eastern Studies at The Hebrew University, edited a book questioning the common perception Islam is antisemitic or anti-Israel, and maintaining that most Arab regimes and most leading Muslim clerics have a pragmatic attitude to Israel.[172]


According to professor Robert Wistrich, director of the Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism (SICSA), the calls for the destruction of Israel by Iran or by Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, or the Muslim Brotherhood, represent a contemporary mode of genocidal anti-Semitism.[173]

According to the Pew Global Attitudes Project released on August 14, 2005, high percentages of the populations of six Muslim-majority countries have negative views of Jews. To a questionnaire asking respondents to give their views of members of various religions along a spectrum from "very favorable" to "very unfavorable", 60% of Turks, 74% of Pakistanis, 76% of Indonesians, 88% of Moroccans, 99% of Lebanese Muslims and 100% of Jordanians checked either "somewhat unfavorable" or "very unfavorable" for Jews.[174][175]

Islamic antisemitism in Europe
A 2017 report by the University of Oslo Center for Research on Extremism tentatively suggests that "individuals of Muslim background stand out among perpetrators of antisemitic violence in Western Europe".[176]


The Netherlands
Further information: Antisemitism in the Netherlands


In the Netherlands, antisemitic incidents, from verbal abuse to violence, are reported, allegedly connected with Islamic youth, mostly boys from Moroccan descent. A phrase made popular during football matches against the so-called Jewish football club Ajax has been adopted by Muslim youth and is frequently heard at pro-Palestinian demonstrations: "Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas!" According to the Centre for Information and Documentation on Israel, a pro-Israel lobby group in the Netherlands, in 2009, the number of anti-Semitic incidents in Amsterdam, the city that is home to most of the approximately 40,000 Dutch Jews, was said to be doubled compared to 2008.[177] In 2010, Raphael Evers, an orthodox rabbi in Amsterdam, told the Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten that Jews can no longer be safe in the city anymore due to the risk of violent assaults. "Jews no longer feel at home in the city. Many are considering aliyah to Israel."[178]

Belgium
Further information: Antisemitism in Belgium, 1980 Antwerp summer camp attack, and Jewish Museum of Belgium shooting


There were recorded well over a hundred antisemitic attacks in Belgium in 2009. This was a 100% increase from the year before. The perpetrators were usually young males of immigrant background from the Middle East. In 2009, the Belgian city of Antwerp, often referred to as Europe's last shtetl, experienced a surge in antisemitic violence. Bloeme Evers-Emden, an Amsterdam resident and Auschwitz survivor, was quoted in the newspaper Aftenposten in 2010: "The antisemitism now is even worse than before the Holocaust. The antisemitism has become more violent. Now they are threatening to kill us."[178]

France
Further information: Antisemitism in France


In 2004, France experienced rising levels of Islamic antisemitism and acts that were publicized around the world.[179][180][181] In 2006, rising levels of antisemitism were recorded in French schools. Reports related to the tensions between the children of North African Muslim immigrants and North African Jewish children.[181] The climax was reached when Ilan Halimi was tortured to death by the so-called "Barbarians gang", led by Youssouf Fofana. In 2007, over 7,000 members of the community petitioned for asylum in the United States, citing antisemitism in France.[182]

Between 2001 and 2005, an estimated 12,000 French Jews took Aliyah to Israel. Several émigrés cited antisemitism and the growing Arab population as reasons for leaving.[183] At a welcoming ceremony for French Jews in the summer of 2004, then Israeli Prime MinisterAriel Sharon caused controversy when he advised all French Jews to "move immediately" to Israel and escape what he coined "the wildest anti-semitism" in France.[184][185][186][187]

In the first half of 2009, an estimated 631 recorded acts of antisemitism took place in France, more than the whole of 2008.[188] Speaking to the World Jewish Congress in December 2009, the French Interior Minister Hortefeux described the acts of antisemitism as "a poison to our republic". He also announced that he would appoint a special coordinator for fighting racism and antisemitism.[189]

Rises in antisemitism in modern France have been linked to the intensifying Israeli–Palestinian conflict.[190] Since the Gaza War in 2009, decreases in antisemitism have been reversed. A report compiled by the Coordination Forum for Countering Anti-Semitism singled out France in particular among Western countries for antisemitism.[191] Between the start of the Israeli offensive in Gaza in late December and the end of it in January, an estimated hundred antisemitic acts were recorded in France. This compares with a total of 250 antisemitic acts in the whole of 2007.[190] In 2012, Mohammed Merah killed four Jews, including three children, at the Ozar HaTorah Jewish school in Toulouse. Shortly after the Charlie Hebdo shooting in 2015, Amedy Coulibaly murdered four Jewish patrons of a Kosher supermarket in Paris and held fifteen people hostage in the Porte de Vincennes siege. In response to these high-profile attacks, Jewish immigration to Israel from France increased by 20%, to 5,100 per year, between 2014 and 2015.[192]

Germany
According to a 2012 survey, 18% of the Turks in Germany believe Jews are inferior human beings.[193][194] A similar study found that most of Germany's native born Muslim youth and children of immigrants have antisemitic views.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism
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I could go on and on but you get the picture...
You lost me when you used the word “Anti-Semitism”........ especially considering that Arabs ARE Semites, which you do not seem to realize.
 
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Islam is Death with Hell following him riding the sickly green 4th horse of the Apocalypse.
7 When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” 8 I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.


1) colonialism, 2 world wars, the atomic bomb, the holocaust, the Bolshevik revolution
they all have one thing in common...judeo-christianity.
2) plague? remember the black plague....it affected the muslims too, but it is europe where it took centre stage..
3) wild beasts of the earth..?
4) in fact, the 4 horsemen in Revelation 6 reflect the judeo-christian world.
First-Conquest=european colonialism, the beginning of ends times rome. Every colonial nation was a former roman colony.
Second-Death=the culmination of colonialism, 2 world wars, the holocoast etc
Third-capitalism and israel=mystery babylon 'do not harm the oil and wine' (that is jews
So why would the fourth magically be about muslims when the whole story is about christians and jews?

so many shit arguments from you. Another L.
 
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1) The jewish prophets/kings of old had many more killed..inc more of their own people. I would appreciate if you also talked about that, if not you're a hypocrite.

2) In that era, the jews in Jerusalem revolted against Heraclius during the sassanid-byzantine wars. they did a typical 'jew' thing, they backstabbed and supporting the invading army..
20000 christians were killed. Many more were kicked out.

given the context of that time, ie the messianic hopes, the willingness of jews to 'play the game of war' by picking sides off against one another...they were dangerous people to have around when the survival of muslims was at stake.

Why didnt the banu qurayza just avoid taking sides? it wasnt their war.
it's like that guy who backbites when there's tension between 2 groups..and causes a fight. that is a typical jew move. It is precisely what i have seen from jewish propaganda sources, reminds me of those yids in the edl/other nationalist groups trying to fan the flames.

3) actually going back to the first point, God of the bible has openly boasted about how women will be forced to eat their unborn babies, how women will be raped, children slaughtered etc as payback for jewish idolatory and usually even that was by the king..but GOD punished all.
Now again if you don't talk about that, you're a hypocrite.

4) Also talk about jewish bolshevism
20-40MILLION christians killed.
 

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The jewish prophets/kings of old had many more killed..inc more of their own people. I would appreciate if you also talked about that, if not you're a hypocrite.
Jews did not BEHEAD 700 innocent people who did not attack them first, who included children and women, in cold blood.

given the context of that time, ie the messianic hopes, the willingness of jews to 'play the game of war' by picking sides off against one another...they were dangerous people to have around when the survival of muslims was at stake.
Mohammad didn't only behead these Jews who did not even attack him, but also robbed their belongings and raped women.

Also talk about jewish bolshevism
20-40MILLION christians killed.
Nonsense. Bolsheviks were all atheists. Having a Jewish name does not mean anything.
 
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muslims don't make deals with the devil. islam is the most vocal when it comes to the worship of jinns/satanic entities, even communicating with them via channelling is highly questionable and disliked.
It's about our understanding of metaphysics, these beings are on a lower level and God is THE source of all power, so why worship any other being?

Jews have an entire history of worshipping anything that gives them earthly power. the bible is full of proof of this. Revelation itself calls them the 'synagogue of satan'.

The whole conspiracy behind the Protocols text, it is based on the same ultimate theme
jews, worshipping satanic entities, for earthly power...and manipulating the world through mass propaganda, playing the political sphere etc.

is there any substance to these suspicions?
it isnt muslims controlling the Major tv networks in the west.
Be it, hollywood, porn, music, tv, news, fashion, politics and the economy, jews are the dominant group...and there is no substance to these things, it is all a scam. just look at stock markets...pure manipulation.
it's kind of like how the owner of Tottenham Hotspur FC, a jew..had inside knowledge of the stock market dump in the late 80s..and he shorted the fuck out of it, made himself a billionaire.
Think of the millions of people who lost their entire life savings in that.
 
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Jews did not BEHEAD 700 innocent people who did not attack them first, who included children and women, in cold blood.



Mohammad didn't only behead these Jews who did not even attack him, but also robbed their belongings and raped women.



Nonsense. Bolsheviks were all atheists. Having a Jewish name does not mean anything.
jew=a bloodline not a religion
most zionist israelites are athiests

i like how you're purposely ignoring what is in the bible, hypocrite.
 

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Jews have an entire history of worshipping anything that gives them earthly power. the bible is full of proof of this. Revelation itself calls them the 'synagogue of satan'.
No, the "synagogue of Satan" is those who claim to be Jews but are not. As for the rest of your fantastic conspiracy theories, all I can say is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Jews invest a lot in education and their persecution by Christians and Muslims throughout history only made them smarter and stronger.
 
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No, the "synagogue of Satan" is those who claim to be Jews but are not. As for the rest of your fantastic conspiracy theories, all I can say is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Jews invest a lot in education and their persecution by Christians and Muslims throughout history only made them smarter and stronger.
What a complete fucking moron you are.
Jesus challenged the jewish rabbis and called them 'sons of satan' despite knowing they belong to the tribe...
the argument is not about bloodline but about spirit...ie they have the spirit of satan but the blood of abraham...and spirit>blood therefore they are 'sons of satan' 'ye are as your father does'
that's why they're later called the 'synagogue of satan'

the fact you didnt even know this and went on literally thinknig they were counterfeit jews says it all.
 

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What a complete fucking moron you are.
Jesus challenged the jewish rabbis and called them 'sons of satan' despite knowing they belong to the tribe...
the argument is not about bloodline but about spirit...ie they have the spirit of satan but the blood of abraham...and spirit>blood therefore they are 'sons of satan' 'ye are as your father does'
that's why they're later called the 'synagogue of satan'

the fact you didnt even know this and went on literally thinknig they were counterfeit jews says it all.
I think you are the moron since that verse does not even mention any Rabbis. Jesus was referring to those who persecuted Christians while claiming they were Jews. The synagogue of Satan refers to specific Jewish communities in Smyrna and Philadelphia that were persecuting the church, not to any modern situation.
 
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No, the "synagogue of Satan" is those who claim to be Jews but are not. As for the rest of your fantastic conspiracy theories, all I can say is that you have no idea what you are talking about. Jews invest a lot in education and their persecution by Christians and Muslims throughout history only made them smarter and stronger.
so what i wrote here

it isnt muslims controlling the Major tv networks in the west.
Be it, hollywood, porn, music, tv, news, fashion, politics and the economy, jews are the dominant group...and there is no substance to these things, it is all a scam. just look at stock markets...pure manipulation.
it's kind of like how the owner of Tottenham Hotspur FC, a jew..had inside knowledge of the stock market dump in the late 80s..and he shorted the fuck out of it, made himself a billionaire.


are not facts? they are facts. the biggest stock exchange is the NY and Nasdaq, dominated by jews. market manipulation through inside knowledge via arbitrage trading is regularly done by jews, this isnt a myth and i gave an example.

Joe Lewis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lewis_(British_businessman)
you know how he made his wealth? by shorting the market via inside knowledge

After selling the family business in the late 1970s, Lewis moved into currency trading in the 1980s and 1990s, resulting in his move to the Bahamas where he is now a tax exile.[4] In September 1992, Lewis teamed up with George Soros to bet on the pound crashing out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism. The event, which was dubbed Black Wednesday, made Lewis very wealthy, and some say he made more than Soros.[5][6] Lewis is still an active foreign exchange trader

Now the next argument
Jews invest a lot in education and their persecution by Christians and Muslims throughout history only made them smarter and stronger.
muslims didnt persecute them 'throughout history' though, they survived in persia and arabia for 2500 yrs. Just because some shit happened in the early period of islam and then the expansion of islam doesnt mean they had it tough throughout the entire history of islam.
in fact, islam saved jews
https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/so-what-did-the-muslims-do-for-the-jews-1.33597

However I like how you're ignoring the fact that in the bible itself, God refers to the jews chasing the World and worshipping false 'gods'
ie people who literally decide to worship spirits/idols etc just to get ahead in the world, eventually find themselves in a position of power
THAT is exactly what the Protocols text tries to expose..you called that 'fantasy' so do you believe in the bible at all? if you're an athiest let me know and i wont refer to the book anymore.
 
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I think you are the moron since that verse does not even mention any Rabbis. Jesus was referring to those who persecuted Christians while claiming they were Jews. The synagogue of Satan refers to specific Jewish communities in Smyrna and Philadelphia that were persecuting the church, not to any modern situation.
wtf are you even saying?

John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


Jesus was addressing jewish rabbis here.


After this point, it cannot be said that 'they were not real jews' because in the first instance Jesus addressed real bloodline jews..
You talk about fantasy whilst you're ignoring this..to say 'oh there was some fake jews pretending to be jews and persecuting christians'

srsly m8
 
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