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The idea that humanity is a disease or problem is not common among people or even news outlets, it is common in the writings and whitepapers of globalist elites. It is almost axiomatic in their writings, that overpopulation is a problem and humanity needs eugenics and population control applied to it, going back for a century. So its not mainstream at all but that sentiment is the one that connects lockdowns to a planetary benefit.im not saying you’re trying to argue with me. I just don’t want the conversation to deviate too far from what I originally said where it becomes tempting to argue a point I never initially intended to make. Just wanting to create focus and clearly answer your question.
I don’t completely agree that a climate lockdown is the same as saying humanity is a problem. I think the climate lockdown is in the same as saying pollution Is the problem and it is in consequence to the shelter in place situation. That is true. The shelter in place showed marked reduction in pollution. I don’t think that the argument that humanity is a problem can gather enough support. It is where you create a bridge with something rational like the literal reduction in pollution created by the lockdowns that you would find the means to justify something like this in the mainstream.
I would say believing humanity is a problem is more of a fringe belief even if it is has gotten coverage by the media.
I also think it is easy to caught up in one angle because it is just as easy to see that this situation creates potential for real control of a population as it is to say that it is evidence that is slipping away even if something like this comes to pass.
The un has been talking about sustainability for years. I still have a copy of our global neighborhood on my bookshelf that was published years ago. It is all about creating environmental sustainability which has been assumed to mean something like controlled communities for years.
people have not been quick to support the sustainability efforts for the reasons given which has included things like overpopulation for a long time. Many people are still careless and think that they not only have nothing to worry about regarding the possibility of a climate lockdown, and they don’t have to do anything to help steer our world towards healing the environment either.
so I don’t think this is the platform that will lead to support for something like the potential for climate lockdowns. I think it is evidence of how much pollution went down during the shelter in place that will make the most sense in the mainstream. Not saying I agree with it as an outcome, but I accept that something like this is more than likely inevitable because the average person has an economic disadvantage currently.
however, somewhere on the spectrum of this discussion is the subject of free energy, so that the final result is not slavery but regaining an economic advantage by how something like this has the potential to create a major economic shift. Something like this would correct the economic disadvantage that we have now to some extent.
and that is my futurist talk or speculation on the subject.
Climate change and the looming fear of projected catastrophes, oceans rising, is a grift. It's hard to talk about clearly because I do believe that elements of humanity are causing damage to the planet, but I don't think its people in their daily lives. The fear of appeasing nature is anciently ingrained in us, that our moral decay leads to natural catastrophe. Going back to the Biblical floods and pagan rituals of the seasons and elements. And this instinct is highjacked by the climate change religion, telling us we must do certain things to appease nature. While it might be true, if a place is extremely morally repugnant, that energy will lead to natural disasters, but they don't need to stop driving cars, and recycle more. While that might be good, it won't appease nature.
Most pollution in the world comes from India and China, and most pollution in the west comes from corporate greed. So allow india to go back to an agricultural civilization? On the contrary, India is hyper corporatizing their farming and calling it literally a green revolution. Climate lockdowns imply giving a lot of power to governments. Perhaps they wont let you drive your car or leave your city, they regulate your diet to make it grain based, like Plato said is good for keeping a population docile and not having them revolt. It's just not a road we want to go down with governments, they shouldnt have that much power ruling over people, that is authoritarianism.