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Heres where you got this wrong....You & I & others who accept CHRIST are body soul & SPIRIT

Those who don't are missing the one part of this and that being the SPIRIT if your not of CHRIST your spirit is dead the body is winding down to that death where your soul will also go seperated from GOD (that is spiritual death being seperated from GOD)
The bible is clear about the triune nature of man... body and soul and spirit. Just as the bible is clear about the Triune nature of God.

God's spirit is known as the Holy spirit.


Much can be said about the Holy spirit but let God speak...

Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the LORD of Hosts.
 

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Counting backwards (4397 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 22/11/2 BC.
Counting backwards (4398 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 7/6/2 BC.
Counting backwards (4399 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 21/12/3 BC.
Counting backwards (4400 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 6/7/3 BC.
Counting backwards (4401 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 19/1/3 BC.
Counting backwards (4402 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 4/8/4 BC.
Counting backwards (4403 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 17/2/4 BC.


Which one of the sabbaths above did Zechariah the father of John the Baptist burn incense in the Temple and converse with Gabriel ?
 

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The bible is clear about the triune nature of man... body and soul and spirit. Just as the bible is clear about the Triune nature of God.

God's spirit is known as the Holy spirit.


Much can be said about the Holy spirit but let God speak...

Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the LORD of Hosts.
yeah i know that but people seem to forget they are only two parts of that 3 y do you think the huge hole in people that they are trying to fill with material or fake spiritual things (emotions) - when you are born again you are filled with the spirit - we where meant to be 3 parts as GOD is but 1 part died that day....and people have been trying to resurrect it by their own means see pagan religions...etc lusts of the flesh material satisfaction etc
 

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yeah i know that but people seem to forget they are only two parts of that 3 y do you think the huge hole in people that they are trying to fill with material or fake spiritual things (emotions) - when you are born again you are filled with the spirit - we where meant to be 3 parts as GOD is but 1 part died that day....and people have been trying to resurrect it by their own means see pagan religions...etc lusts of the flesh material satisfaction etc
There is a difference between man and God.

A difference between the spirit of man and the Spirit of God.


Man is made in God's image.

A triune nature.

Body and soul and spirit.


But don't confuse the spirit of man with the Spirit of God.
 

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There is a difference between man and God.

A difference between the spirit of man and the Spirit of God.


Man is made in God's image.

A triune nature.

Body and soul and spirit.


But don't confuse the spirit of man with the Spirit of God.
Umm no really?!? (sarcasm)
 

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When there is a countdown to the Messiah in Daniel 9... then the chronology of Jesus is highly significant.


And that's probably why there is no consensus about Jesus chronology... since it is highly significant.
 

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How long was Jesus ministry ?



Luke 13 6Then Jesus told this parable: “A man had a fig tree that was planted in his vineyard. He went to look for fruit on it, but did not find any. 7So he said to the keeper of the vineyard, ‘Look, for the past three years I have come to search for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Therefore cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’

8‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone again this year, until I dig around it and fertilize it. 9If it bears fruit next year, fine. But if not, you can cut it down.’ ”




Jesus ministry was (3 +1) years.



So when His ministry began on Passover after the wedding at Cana... then it ended 4 years later on Passover.



Now count inclusively ! as that's how they counted before the english custom of exclusive counting.

So when english speaking peeps start with 0 when counting... back then in Greece Rome Judea and more they began with 1.

Therefore the 1st Passover in Jesus ministry is counted as 1 and the 2nd Passover as 2 and the 3rd Passover as 3 and the 4th Passover as 4.

4 years inclusive counting... but 3 years exclusive counting !


So for example when Jesus said 3 days and 3 nights... english peeps exclusively start counting from 0 ! when Jesus actually as per custom counted from 1.
 
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Jesus was baptised when He was about 30 years old in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar.


Tiberius Caesar began to reign from 17 sept 14 AD.... and so his 15th year was 28/29 AD.

Therefore Jesus was baptised in either 28 or 29 AD.
 

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.

Citing Phlegon, Africanus wrote, “In the fourth year of the 202nd Olympiad (i.e., A.D. 33) there was ‘the greatest eclipse of the sun’ and that ‘it became night in the sixth hour of the day [i.e., noon] so that stars even appeared in the heavens. There was a great earthquake in Bithynia, and many things were overturned in Nicaea.’”




The 4th year of the 202nd Olympiad began in midsummer 32 AD and lasted to midsummer 33 AD.

One day in that year between midsummer 32 AD and midsummer 33 AD... the day became night and accompanied by a great earthquake.


When we know Jesus was crucified on Passover (which always is on the day before a full moon) then this was not a solar eclipse accompanied by a great earthquake... but the day Passover and year 33 AD when the Son of God was crucified for our crimes.




Matthew 27 45From the sixth hour until the ninth hour darkness came over all the land. 46About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”i

47When some of those standing there heard this, they said, “He is calling Elijah.” 48One of them quickly ran and brought a sponge. He filled it with sour wine,j put it on a reed, and held it up for Jesus to drink.

49But the others said, “Leave Him alone. Let us see if Elijah comes to save Him.”

50When Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, He yielded up His spirit. 51At that moment the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth quaked and the rocks were split. 52The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53After Jesus’ resurrection, when they had come out of the tombs, they entered the holy city and appeared to many people.

54When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified and said, “Truly this was the Son of God.”
 

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So when Jesus was crucified on Passover 33 AD... then that was the 4th Passover in His ministry.

He had come looking for fruit on Passover week 30 AD and 31 AD and 32 AD... and gave it one more year before He cursed it on Passover week 33 AD.


Therefore Jesus was baptised in summer/autumn 29 AD.
 

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When He was about 30 years old when baptised in summer/autumn 29 AD... then He was born in spring/summer/autumn 2 BC.
 

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So far as shown above the available evidence suggest a spring/summer/autumn 2 BC birth for Jesus Christ.


If the priestly divisions have been tracked as this wiki suggests.. then it's just a matter of counting (n x 24 weeks) backwards from the most recent 8th course of Abijah which began on sabbath 14 may 2022... to find out when Zechariah served in the Temple and talked with Gabriel.


Counting backwards (4397 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 22/11/2 BC.
Counting backwards (4398 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 7/6/2 BC.
Counting backwards (4399 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 21/12/3 BC.
Counting backwards (4400 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 6/7/3 BC.
Counting backwards (4401 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 19/1/3 BC.
Counting backwards (4402 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 4/8/4 BC.
Counting backwards (4403 x 24 weeks) from sabbath 14/5/2022 comes to sabbath 17/2/4 BC.
Since John the Baptist was born around 6 months before Jesus... and the available evidence place Jesus birth in spring/summer/autumn 2 BC... then we can cross out most of the above 8th course of Abijah.

And we are left with the 8th course of Abijah which began on sabbath 19 jan 3 BC (which would place the birth of John around nov 3 BC and the birth of Jesus 6 months later around may 2 BC.) And the 8th course of Abijah which began on sabbath 6 july 3 BC (which would place the birth of John around april 2 BC and the birth of Jesus 6 months later around oct 2 BC.)




So which is it ? Was Jesus born in may or oct 2 BC ?
 

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Well we've been given a sign.



Luke 2 8And there were shepherds residing in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks by night. 9Just then an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid! For behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people: 11Today in the city of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord! 12And this will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.”



Manger

Strong's Concordance 5336. phatné

phatné: a manger
Original Word: φάτνη, ης, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: phatné
Phonetic Spelling: (fat'-nay)
Definition: a manger
Usage: a manger, feeding-trough, stall.

Booth



The Feast of Booths which is always in sept/oct... and in 2 BC began on oct 13.



 

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So the available evidence place Jesus birth at the Feast of Booths 2 BC.

His baptism in late summer/early autumn 29 AD.

His crucifixion on Passover 33 AD.
 

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Mark 15 42Now it was already evening. Since it was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath), 43Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent Council member who himself was waiting for the kingdom of God, boldly went to Pilate to ask for the body of Jesus. 44Pilate was surprised to hear that Jesus was already dead, so he summoned the centurion to ask if this was so. 45When Pilate had confirmed it with the centurion, he granted the body to Joseph.



Preparation Day

Strong's Concordance 3904. paraskeué

paraskeué: preparation, the day of preparation (for a Sabbath or feast)
Original Word: παρασκευή, ῆς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: paraskeué
Phonetic Spelling: (par-ask-yoo-ay')
Definition: preparation, the day of preparation (for a Sabbath or feast)
Usage: the day of preparation, the day before the Sabbath, Friday.

Friday









John 19 31It was the day of Preparation, and the next day was a High Sabbath. In order that the bodies would not remain on the cross during the Sabbath, the Jews asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies removed.



High Sabbath. A sabbath/saturday which coincides with a high/holy day. In this case 15 Nisan the 1st day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
 

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Stop copy pasting others errors concerning the chronology of Jesus.

Don't regurgitate rubbish.


If you don't bother to check and make sure the validity of something... just sit down and shut up !
 

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Then the devil came along

and made a man his messenger

and injected himself in the bible

as God of the old testament

but without a Son

so stripping His divinity

in the minds of men

who believe the devil


and his messenger.




 

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2 Cor 4 4The god of the world in this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
 
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