Brice Taylor/Sue Ford TFTM

[isitaconspiracyornot]

I've read TFTM by Brice Taylor and was curious of everyone's thoughts on here. I'm new here, sorry if it's been done before. What are parts of the book that stuck out to you? And most importantly, do you believe her story or not?

Im in the camp of "yes its true". I've read it front to back, all 38 chapters, and would like to share a few of the findings/connections I tried to discover, even if they aren't much.

First, her dad- Calvin Charles Eckhart. She mentioned him torturing her, shooting her in porngraphy, beating her, shocking her, drowning her etc and multiple other abuses. She stated he was a welder. Couldn't find much info on him other than an insignificant obit column from LATIMES, which states "Eckhart, Calvin C., 86, of Agoura Hills, retired welder for Eckhart’s Welding. Aftercare California Cremation and Burial Society, North Hollywood". Article link-https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-04-30-me-64110-story.html.

Next, "Uncle Charlie" (Charles Lilley Horn) She credits him as introducing her to Henry Kissinger, and also selling her to Bob Hope. He was president of the Federal Cartridge Company, and was a freemason. Also was tied to USC, which also was the school her husband got into for dentistry.


"Uncle Charlie" just looks freaky. Pure evil.

Kauai Island in Hawaii was the last big area of prostitution for Brice Taylor and her daughter. This took place sometime in the early 90s. Some of the celebrities Brice and/or her daughter were prostituted to (Charlton Heston, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Sylvester Stallone, Ronald Reagan, etc).

Whats interesting is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar actually purchased a property on Kauai in 1986. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/kareem-abdul-jabbars-hawaiian-mansion-2014-9?amp.

I had quite a few more findings, but felt it was all too much to add...

Let me know your thoughts, and also your thoughts on the book (certain parts that disturbed you, celebrities/politicians that suprised you etc), and also whether you believe her story or not. The chapter that got me was Viva Las Vegas, where she talked about Frank Sinatra (if you read it, you know how bad it was).

Thx, or is it thx 4 the memories?

I figured I would post this as it's relevant to the entertainment scene and what they do.

 

[Daze]

I've read TFTM by Brice Taylor and was curious of everyone's thoughts on here. I'm new here, sorry if it's been done before. What are parts of the book that stuck out to you? And most importantly, do you believe her story or not?

Im in the camp of "yes its true". I've read it front to back, all 38 chapters, and would like to share a few of the findings/connections I tried to discover, even if they aren't much.

First, her dad- Calvin Charles Eckhart. She mentioned him torturing her, shooting her in porngraphy, beating her, shocking her, drowning her etc and multiple other abuses. She stated he was a welder. Couldn't find much info on him other than an insignificant obit column from LATIMES, which states "Eckhart, Calvin C., 86, of Agoura Hills, retired welder for Eckhart’s Welding. Aftercare California Cremation and Burial Society, North Hollywood". Article link-https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-04-30-me-64110-story.html.

Next, "Uncle Charlie" (Charles Lilley Horn) She credits him as introducing her to Henry Kissinger, and also selling her to Bob Hope. He was president of the Federal Cartridge Company, and was a freemason. Also was tied to USC, which also was the school her husband got into for dentistry.
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"Uncle Charlie" just looks freaky. Pure evil.

Kauai Island in Hawaii was the last big area of prostitution for Brice Taylor and her daughter. This took place sometime in the early 90s. Some of the celebrities Brice and/or her daughter were prostituted to (Charlton Heston, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Sylvester Stallone, Ronald Reagan, etc).

Whats interesting is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar actually purchased a property on Kauai in 1986. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/kareem-abdul-jabbars-hawaiian-mansion-2014-9?amp.

I had quite a few more findings, but felt it was all too much to add...

Let me know your thoughts, and also your thoughts on the book (certain parts that disturbed you, celebrities/politicians that suprised you etc), and also whether you believe her story or not. The chapter that got me was Viva Las Vegas, where she talked about Frank Sinatra (if you read it, you know how bad it was).

Thx, or is it thx 4 the memories?

I figured I would post this as it's relevant to the entertainment scene and what they do.

I read it about a decade ago. Where she claimed to be a president model, much like Marylin Monroe. I guess I believed it back then but looking back… She gives a lot of big names. As you have mentioned, Bob Hope and Stallone.

People with this kind of money can have anyone they want. Think they'd really need a mind controlled sex slave?

No homo, but Stallone's a good-looking guy. There's a reason he seldom wears a shirt in his movies. These MK candidates are for less attractive people, like Sheldon Anderson. Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen and so on. Most of the people in holy-wood that are behind the camera are not attractive.


I don't remember BT naming Kareem Abdul Jabber, but I'm fairly certain he is innocent either way. As he is a pious man. After all, his name means slave of The Compeller, one of God's names in Arabic.

It's a name he gave to himself. It's not the name his parents gave him at birth.





If memory serves, she claimed to be Kissinger's "computer" where he'd access her mental files. There is not a human on earth that can remember large amounts of data. By our very nature, we are created to be forgetful. This is why scripture is often referred to as dhikr, or "the reminder".

I think a lot of the names she mentioned were meant to sell the book. Shock and awe kind of thing. Imagine if Ghislaine Maxwell today came out and started giving a lot of big names. She would be dead. But no harm came to Brice.

A big part of MK ultra involves demons and demonic possession. Literally, this is why they are often under heavy drugs, because an intoxicated mind is easy to possess. BT doesn't mention this at all in her book. Which also leads me to believe she's embellishing.


Another "survivor" who came out around the same time was Cathy O'Brian. Her situation was more likely real. She mentions things Taylor didn't. Like elite hunting parties, similar to the movie "hunger games". Or "surviving the game" was closer to her reality.

These kinds of events are very real, especially among royalty / billionaires.

 

[isitaconspiracyornot]

I read it about a decade ago. Where she claimed to be a president model, much like Marylin Monroe. I guess I believed it back then but looking back… She gives a lot of big names. As you have mentioned, Bob Hope and Stallone.

People with this kind of money can have anyone they want. Think they'd really need a mind controlled sex slave?

I have 4 opinions on this: 1: the celebrities/politicians could be programmed themselves, 2: they have sick fetishes that need to be satisfied that the average person isn't willing to do, 3: they might just love sex so much, they don't care who it's coming from, and 4: some of them probably can't trust the average model or groupie, so they look for someone who is completely obedient.

No homo, but Stallone's a good-looking guy. There's a reason he seldom wears a shirt in his movies. These MK candidates are for less attractive people, like Sheldon Anderson. Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen and so on. Most of the people in holy-wood that are behind the camera are not attractive.

For every Stallone, Elvis, and Reynolds, she listed plenty of "ugly" people: (Bob Hope, Alan Cranston, Mickey Rooney, Lee Iacocca, Bebe Rebozo, Gerald Ford, Lyndon B Johnson etc).


I don't remember BT naming Kareem Abdul Jabber, but I'm fairly certain he is innocent either way. As he is a pious man. After all, his name means slave of The Compeller, one of God's names in Arabic.

There are many "Christians" who are into sick stuff, like the priests for example, and so they use that as a cover for their activities. Kareem could have been no different with Islam. (LA Lakers in the 80s were wild also)

It's a name he gave to himself. It's not the name his parents gave him at birth.

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If memory serves, she claimed to be Kissinger's "computer" where he'd access her mental files. There is not a human on earth that can remember large amounts of data. By our very nature, we are created to be forgetful. This is why scripture is often referred to as dhikr, or "the reminder".

This is one I don't know if I can counter, but her stories and descriptions are too detailed to be false, imo.



I think a lot of the names she mentioned were meant to sell the book. Shock and awe kind of thing. Imagine if Ghislaine Maxwell today came out and started giving a lot of big names. She would be dead. But no harm came to Brice.

This could be done to discredit her. Sort of like reverse psychology. "Let her discuss these powerful people and all of their gross problems, let's see who will believe her"

Ted Gunderson (FBI agent) had helped her navigate for safety. And according to BT, she made the claim that she had been tracked and tailed by ppl multiple times to scare her.

A big part of MK ultra involves demons and demonic possession. Literally, this is why they are often under heavy drugs, because an intoxicated mind is easy to possess. BT doesn't mention this at all in her book. Which also leads me to believe she's embellishing.

She did discuss ppl like her family, who were satanists. (Uncle Charlie was a freemason) She also named Taj Mahal as doing satanic rituals in Kauai to the slaves to keep them traumatized. Also mentioned Masonic initiations that involve "selling their soul".


Another "survivor" who came out around the same time was Cathy O'Brian. Her situation was more likely real. She mentions things Taylor didn't. Like elite hunting parties, similar to the movie "hunger games". Or "surviving the game" was closer to her reality.

BT mentioned "war games" on Bob Hope's Jordan Ranch.. she said Bush Sr did it to mentally torture her and her daughter Kelly.. I have interviewed Cathy O'Brien twice and am good acquaintances with her through email.. BT and Cathy both have spoke against each other, as evidenced by their book. I personally believe both of them.

These kinds of events are very real, especially among royalty / billionaires.
I 100% agree. Especially the British Royals.

I tried to respectfully counter your points, and I respect your opinion though no matter what.

 

[Daze]

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Generally, I avoid these kinds of posts because they are time sinks. You cut up mine, then I cut up yours. Before I know it, I'm spending 30 minutes on one reply.

Let's just agree to disagree.

I think the book was too sensational. Like the part where she described her father using his penis to replace her bottle as a baby.

If you want to believe it, that's ok. It's not like anything will come of it. The book is going on 25 years old. No one other than Ted Gunderson got anything but a slap on the wrist. They killed him, but he was pretty old. Near 80 I think.

If you like this kind of content, look into Fritz Springmeiers books. You'll find a lot of truth there.

 

[isitaconspiracyornot]

To each their own.. you are def entitled to your own opinion