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if you are here for the sole purpose to attack this thread and every posting, which you have often done without me saying a word and without you even reading all entries, and how god should kill you if this thread keeps existing, please feel free to leave, as those kind of postings are against the rules and quite troubling.

this thread has no connection to the subject of the other thread.

please read the rules of the forum ( page one) and reconsider wether this is a suitable place for you.
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If you use your logic you will find the content of hadiths have no sense and it also plasphymous. The same ahadith you are defending says that Mohammed married Aisha at the age of 6 years old (please spear me with oh at that time girls were more mature at that time) the ahadith not only says that Muhammad was pedo but also sex machine who has 11 wives this purely demonic this just an example of the no sense of ahadiths. Muhammad was a mere human like you and me he didn't tell you to idolize him ( you should never idolize someone beside God) .his sole mission was to deliver God message like other messengers before him. Muhammad only brought the Quran like all messengers who brought only one book (Torah, Indjil (old testament ect ect ) but bcs Satan can't alter the Quran he created an inlternative for it.Muhammad will testify against Muslims in the day of judgments saying that his people disreted the Quran .look sorry I am not here to debate .the clock is running world war 3 is near. Like Albert pick said world war 3 will be btw the Muslim world vs the western world.all Muslims leaders will lead their people to war and also the western leaders will lead their people against Muslims. World war 3 will be much worst than the previous world wars.half of the population will be wiped out. you can see now the tensions btw France and the Muslim world over the caricatures and the terrorist attacks . (Am not saying that Muslims are terrorists I know it inside job) this only the beginning. Do you remember the Hollywood feminist slogan "your time is up!!) This was directed to the whole humanity our time is up!! Everyone will face their deeds.or trump slogan (enough is enough) .God have been protecting humans from our evil elites for a very long time a mercy from him but bcs people are not responding to his signs ,he will stop protecting the criminals and the associators and blasphemous and the atheists etc etc.it may sound cruel what am saying but this the truth God retribution is severe.the lockdown was a chance given by God to us to repent and come to him but nothing changed people of religions are still stuck in their idolatry and the others stuck in their rejection of God. In parellel with the chaos God will unleash extrem weather on earth such as floods,earthquakes, tafoons, woods fire .it is already happening since long time and now it is more frequent. It is not climate change but it is God commends no one can control the weather except God.soo yeah is apt to you to judge. Peace
Ps: am not attacking anyone am just stating my opinion people can't Handel criticism. If someone critise my believes I won't get angry. It normal to have different opinions
SORRY TO DRAIN THE THREAD I WONT POST ABOUT THIS SUBJECT ANYMORE.
First of all, it was not an ahadith, it was a verse that i had written. This means that you do not truly understand what the difference is and that doesn't make sense to sw

I honestly am very sad about what you wrote, I even feel guilty for replying to your other post, because of my reply you posted something so wrong and not right. If you truly are curious and want to know more about Prophet Muhammed (saw) please research Islam, read the Quran. I won't reply to you as I feel like I'm putting in genuine effort to only read a new post that makes me question if I did right by replying. If you aren't open for other viewpoints what I say wont matter to you.
 

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I am Arabic and I saw the Sasaeng Arabs...they are fake...I saw their infos lol I laugh because its obvious false but I don't know why the Arabic sasaeng are so famous...its odd...considering they are far from Korea in everything...I don't think Arabs can be Sasaeng
Oh? For real? I just thought they were valid.. I have been wanting to get valid sasaeng information... (I PROMISE I AM NOT CREEPY)
 

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Good evening

I know you hadn't implied this but I want to be clear, Quran is not altered. Muhammad (saw) is a Prophet. We follow his footsteps as he is someone we look up to. In history he took shelter from the Christian kingdom in Abyssinia and he was welcomed. Ask yourself the question, why? He is righteous. He is someone who does not oppress nor force religion on someone. When studying the character of Prophet Muhammad (saw) you will notice that he is fair and righteous to the people even if they are not believers.

He treats people with respect. Prophet Muhammad (saw) prayed to Allah (swt) for his enemies to be guided. How can we not look up to him? I make so many mistakes daily, you do too and people we love do too, we aren't perfect, but Islam is perfect. How can Islam be a cult? Islam itself is perfect. We humans are not perfect, we make mistakes and do our best to improve ourselves. Cults are a big topic and you can't claim that Islam is a cult. I mean, yes you can say and write what you want, but that doesn't mean the truth has changed because of what you wrote. The truth doesn't change.

Muslims do not associate things with Allah (swt). We only ask help from Allah (swt) and we only rely on Him (swt). Faith, we trust Allah (swt). Faith, the word itself means a lot of stuff. Faith is something treasurable. Faith is not what you see with your eyes but what you feel with your soul. I mean, that's my viewpoint so I can be wrong too.

There is a difference between hearsays and Hadiths. Hadiths are confirmed by their chains and there are weak Hadiths and authentic Hadiths. It's a very big topic to learn about it, and I myself still have a lot to learn.

We do not rely on humans, on worldly stuff, on desires or on worldly gains, we only rely on Allah (swt). Allah(swt) free's my heart from this illusion of the world and its temporary desires, from the weight on my shoulders. Even if I relied on whole humankind, no one can help me, because you are a human, and so am I. We are both the same. Wanting happiness, peace and love. We humans have desires and make mistakes and have to learn from them. Only Allah(swt) can help me and guide me. Even if I have the whole world, its pleasures and money and fame, it can't give me happiness, only Allah (swt) can.

And of course we have to work, we have to put in the work to improve ourselves, we have free will to choose, think and take action. We live in this world as a test, for us this world is a prison, and for others this world is heaven. But the true Paradise is in the Hereafter and the true justification we will see then. This world does seem unfair because this world is a test, everyone's actions will be asked on the Day of judgement. The oppressed will get justice, the abused will get justice. People won't be able to run away from their bad deeds and their good deeds. Because Allah (swt) is the most just and most merciful. And we have to stay humble. who are we to feel arrogance, ego and pride? We are humans who are in need of water, food and air, clothes and warmth, how a fool we are to choose to be arrogant.

Okay i just realized I went too off topic but... its fine

I love this verse, it helped me to take action to change myself. I was someone who disliked work, someone who wanted the result and not the progress, but then this world wouldn't make sense, it's the progress that matters because this world is a test.

"Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves."
~ Surat Ar-Ra`d, Verse 11.

Btw If someone reads this and notices I said something wrong please correct me as I'm still learning and my English isn't the best.
Aww! I like your post. Your reply is so respectful and you explained so well without attacking the op for having a different opinion. Just wow!!
 

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First of all, it was not an ahadith, it was a verse that i had written. This means that you do not truly understand what the difference is and that doesn't make sense to sw

I honestly am very sad about what you wrote, I even feel guilty for replying to your other post, because of my reply you posted something so wrong and not right. If you truly are curious and want to know more about Prophet Muhammed (saw) please research Islam, read the Quran. I won't reply to you as I feel like I'm putting in genuine effort to only read a new post that makes me question if I did right by
First of all, it was not an ahadith, it was a verse that i had written. This means that you do not truly understand what the difference is and that doesn't make sense to sw

I honestly am very sad about what you wrote, I even feel guilty for replying to your other post, because of my reply you posted something so wrong and not right. If you truly are curious and want to know more about Prophet Muhammed (saw) please research Islam, read the Quran. I won't reply to you as I feel like I'm putting in genuine effort to only read a new post that makes me question if I did right by replying. If you aren't open for other viewpoints what I say wont matter to you.
replying. If you aren't open for other viewpoints what I say wont matter to you.
I never said that the quote you wrote is from ahadith??? It from the Quran I have read the Quran and did my research , you said you follow the ways of Muhammad therefore you do it based on ahadiths so I criticized the the books of ahadiths that it.of course am not here to debate I just want it to post this message before it too late you are free to agree or disagree .you are the one to judge.peace
 

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Oh? For real? I just thought they were valid.. I have been wanting to get valid sasaeng information... (I PROMISE I AM NOT CREEPY)
I’d say don’t trust them. They’re deluded to the max like shippers, even if some of the information they had on the idols are true, most won’t share or talk about (I think some are traumatized by what they find) and would keep it to themselves as a memorabilia of sorts, just my opinion :)
 

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The 10 year plan of Klaus Schwab, founder of World Economic Forum.
His vision: New Communistic Green World Order.
Some items on that list have already been checked. 3 more and it’s over with the little freedom left.


Article below:

Klaus Schwab says – You will Own Nothing in 10 years

I am deeply concerned that too many Americans are totally blind to the truth. They think this election is just about Biden v Trump. This is the World Economic Forum video on 8 predictions for 2030 which includes the surrender of the United States to the United Nations – they just say the US will no longer be the world Superpower. They will end eating meat, hence Gates’ investment in meat alternatives, will make fossil fuels history which is why Biden said in the debate he will end the fossil fuel industry and he will rejoin the United Nations.



“You’ll own nothing” — And “you’ll be happy about it.”
“The U.S. won’t be the world’s leading superpower”
“You won’t die waiting for an organ donor” — They will be made by 3D printers
“You’ll eat much less meat” — Meat will be “an occasional treat, not a staple, for the good of the environment and our health.”
“A billion people will be displaced by climate change” – Soros’ Open Borders
“Polluters will have to pay to emit carbon dioxide” – “There will be a global price on carbon. This will help make fossil fuels history”
“You could be preparing to go to Mars” — Scientists “will have worked out how to keep you healthy in space.”
“Western values will have been tested to the breaking point.” – “Checks and balances that underpin our democracies must not be forgotten”
This is the agenda that has been set in motion by this fake COVID-19 Pandemic which was instigated by these people and the lockdowns were intended to crush the economy, set it in the direction of nationalizing all industry, and wipe out small business. They are developing passports that will require vaccines in order to travel. They are deliberately trying to reduce international travel to reduce pollution and to prevent mass uprisings against their new Communist Agenda. Yes, they are moving from socialism where you still own something to communism where the government owns everything. It is no coincidence that Pikkety is behind this in league with Klaus Schwab. Communism began in France. They sold the idea to Karl Marx which was first a socialist.

This is what is at stake in this election. This is not about liking or disliking Trump. They want people to vote on such a superficial basis that he is obnoxious, insults people, and is one of the hated rich.



This is the real danger we face – World Economic Forum and its vision for a new Communist Green World Order. The press will NOT do their job. For if they did, they would expose the fact that the World Economic Forum sold all its investments just before the crash. Klaus Schwab is the new Karl Marx. This is the greatest organized conspiracy in human history and the press is welcoming it with open arms. You will own nothing in 10 years, but you will also have no rights. – Papers Please!
Is there a way to save ourselves from this?! I’m so angry and scared :(
 

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Hmm. Some other headlines read bighit ipo reaching a new low.
They’ll be soon having a new release and will be fine. But the article doesn’t make it sound all so reassuring.



This is how the article starts:
“A pressing new topic popped up last week: How to Get Your Money Back If You Regret Your Investment in South Korea’s Most Famous Music Agency, which was featured earlier this month. “How do I get a refund for the shares I bought?” Asks a desperate investor. “I still have the receipt.”

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Don’t we all..


This is good and funny presented. Min 1:50 - he changes for legal reason all names to explain the issue and calls Bang Si-Hyuk BREAD BOY, BigHit is Big Hot Breadetertainment .


It also means that the members have lost a big amount of money since they cannot sell their shares and seeing how unstable their stock prices are, it might get even lower.
I think the IPO will be constantly fluctuating despite BTS’ efforts this year, but by the looks of it they’re going to be ok since the members aren’t likely to enlist soon or in the future. I mean all the signs are there, if they’re really ok with enlisting Jin would’ve done it already without discussing it publicly and also they’re government darlings lol

In case you missed it @boti, Gates and SK

 

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if you are referring to the Lausanne treaty, your information couldn’t be farther from the truth.


The Lausanne treaty, which Romania also co-signed, acknowledged turkey’s sovereignty, by defining its borders and amongst others in return, to make it short, Turkey cannot drill its own resources and has to import.

In 2023 this restriction will be lifted and Turkey will become a huge power and a threat to the entire Europe , Erdogan is already leading soft-wars on multiple levels.

If anything regarding borders, he wants to go against the very own terms who allowed today’s turkey’s borders, and expand it. He already tried to modify the treaty in 2016.

In a previous post I have mentioned that Turkey threatens Greece over some parts of the waters. He’s already preparing the worst to come. next in line is the Danube.

Even if you haven't followed all political events at least since 2000 involving turkey (which bares the question - why would you talk then about it as if the west is preparing to attack turkey and again the implication that the others lie about it), you thought that in 2020 a country as dangerous as turkey would accept terms from a 100 y old treaty, which, if true the way you said it, would make turkey inexistent, inviting all countries to jump in and take a piece.

Giving all posts I've seen to this subject in the past days, I can only make the remark - there’s a lot of coincidence between perpetuating misinformation to create a scenario in which the entire world is against muslims and the "elite" is attacking you, it is never the muslims' fault, it was someone else, it was "planned", and radical islam ideology.

This issue with Turkey is a great threat for romanians , despite us contributing to the fact that turkey became a independent state/country as oppose to mass slaughterings of romanians throughout the history by Muslims.
Our only advantage in his eyes is that we are not a Russian ally. Unfortunately. Our country was sold to the communist Germany.

The same in regards to armenia and we’re back to using the word “elite” without understanding its meaning.

130 years shortly explained:


Nagorno-Karabakh was declared by Stalin as part of Azerbaijan despite the region being Armenia, who fought wars on all sides to protect the land. after Soviet collapse a referendum was held, they voted to secede from Azerbaijan and become a part of Armenia because the territory was inhabited largely by Armenians. Since it was always Armenia.

which is why they started the war that has been fought for 30 years and ongoing. Artsakh/Armenia is between Azerbaijan and Turkey. Turkey doesn’t want to recognize Armenia genocide and wants expansion.

Russia gave armenians support as Russia wanted them to have less ties with Europe and more with Russia /euroasia.

The problem is that the borders of this state aren’t officially acknowledged and there is too much room left to interpretation at Armenia’s disadvantage.


That’s the short story behind it.


Interesting how when I posted about the attacks on Armenia, you wanted to say that is not Turkey but Azerbaijan who’s attacking Armenia.

Now you say it is not Azerbaijan, it’s the Armenians attacking Azerbaijan and the entire world lies about it.

Maybe you could consider and think wether the "media" lies and propaganda aren't coming from somewhere else..

I am curious to the intentions of those here and who is giving you all this wrong information because in regards to turkey (the Lausanne treaty) and Artsakh - those are simple subjects.


If you would have had the right information about the terror Erdogan is creating in Europe, how he has Europe by its balls, and how it is not the evil west lying about it, maybe you'd actually see the truth and not live in a world where you think it's the others, the west, not Turkey at fault. Turks are moving to Romania in order to escape Erdogan. He's a monster same like Trudeau.


It looks like the propaganda that you have received is one that makes Turkey's most hated dictator of the past 100 years , into a victim of the west. If you care about those innocent muslims, that WE romanians are welcoming and helping, punch the person in the face who gave you this information. many people have been persecuted and tortured in turkey because of Erdogan, and by people i mean muslims, in case no other ethnicity or religion matters.

I actually posted about the persecution Muslims under Erdogan. You missed that part...


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as to the crimes and how it is not the usual "it's the elite, it's planned, it's is programmed" - I don't post random numbers found on a site and i have actually been silent about it due to its severity.


I was referring to the numbers and rapes in Europe. Not the us soldiers who have also raped women in Romania. That was not a data on rapes around the world. It was only limited to Germany and some Swedish crimes because that's were I have some means through some people to get SOME of the real data. of course I know that US is different. also in romania. we have muslims there, but the rapes are still being committed largely by romanians, or.. foreigners from austria, belgium, USA, etc. therefore I haven't mentioned those.


muslims do commit some sort of crimes in romania, but I won't report on it at this time.

80 attacks per day, by muslims, including rapings, gang rapings of little children which has become some sort of a cult and other attacks. german people don't commit those kind of crimes. germans are more into tax evasion, spying on citizens, money laundry, etc. except antifa which is also dangerous here - attacking looting burning, etc. like you see in the US.


you want "elite" ? I 've explained it, but here again - the "elite" covers for the radical islam.

I have also explained in detail what the "elite" is. the at large leftist communistic ideology.

the 2015/2016 attacks which the press has tried to cover and denied it ever happened.


1250 sexual assaults within a few hours, only 2 men arrested. 1250. thousand two hundred fifty. in public spaces, many surrounded by groups, gang rapes in the middle of the city, while citizens frozen seeing the ordeal and being held at gunpoint or else. the police ran away when they tried to intervene. in a country which has never seen something like this. people were peacefully and friendly like always in germany, because they are boring as fuck, celebrating New Years Eve and this happened. all muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_New_Year%27s_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany


this was just the beginning.


I am not going to make a propaganda of = look how many crimes muslims, or radical muslims commit, but pages of people defending islam portraying it as all good, or finding the blame on the "elite" - that speaks for itself.

trump is the opposite of erdogan.
"The Lausanne treaty, which Romania also co-signed, acknowledged turkey’s sovereignty, by defining its borders and amongst others in return, to make it short, Turkey cannot drill its own resources and has to import.

In 2023 this restriction will be lifted and Turkey will become a huge power and a threat to the entire Europe , Erdogan is already leading soft-wars on multiple levels."


yes it was Lausanne. Actually, there is no official article at Lausanne about restriction of natural sources. Some claim there are secret articles in Lausanne but it is never verified. Because, that is pure political propaganda of Erdogan to win the election in 2023 and they already freely use their natural resources. After lausanne end, Turkey's land limits will be questioned including Bosphorus Bridge. That is why Turkey is literally building a new Bosphorus Bridge.

It is called Canal Istanbul project. Turkey is literally changing its geography and making new canal because of it.

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"Nagorno-Karabakh was declared by Stalin as part of Azerbaijan despite the region being Armenia, who fought wars on all sides to protect the land."

There are Azerbaijan people living in both region. it is not right to ignore their rights. There are lots of civil people killed by armenian attacks. Is it ok to kill them for land ? killing people because of history doesn't make anyone right. I stand my point. World need to hear azerbaijan side of story.

for example;

"In a previous post I have mentioned that Turkey threatens Greece over some parts of the waters. He’s already preparing the worst to come. next in line is the Danube."

over some parts of water ? LOL I am sorry but that shows how much you know little about this issue. East Mediterranean sea limits problem is not just between turkey and Greece.

I do not like to talk about myself but maybe it is ok. My proffesion is related with ocean, I study on many cases including east mediterrenean, South china sea, Japan's okinawa island and several other important cases around the world..

Sea limits much more important than land limits. As Today, economic gain from sea much more greater than land. by the way Mediterranean sea is one of most important sea because of its geographical location.

United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea in 1982, is the most valid maritime law in the world. it is accepted by lots of country including Grecee. eventhought, there are some countries that didnt signed the agreement. they are still following the rules. UNCLOS's articles are accepted worldwide.

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tukey-grece problem is because of meis island that belong to greece but its far from main land (Greece) and near to turkey. Turkey wants to apply UNCLOS maritime law while greece wants Meis island accepted as part of the main land. that is the real issue. it is not just some part of waters.

in UNCLOS, therer is an artcile about islands which are far from main land. That type of islands do not have same rules as mainland but have it own sea limits but still belong to the mainland country.

Turkey reference this article because;
Meis is nearly 3539 km far from mainland (Greece) while it is 2 km from turkey. Now, do you understand the problem? Same problem occurred between Nicaragua and Colombia and it is solved by implementing UNCLOS article so turkey wants the same thing.

meis is a small island. The area where Turkish and Greek theses overlap is approximately 75 thousand square kilometers, and in this case, the island of Meis produces approximately (more than) 4 thousand times its own area of maritime jurisdiction.

You can not show me any example similar to Greece claim, even in history.

EEZ means economic exclusive zone. In that zone, a country can use sea resources.
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Boti, you claimed that I do not know much but actually, you are the one that only know the tip of the iceberg!!!
I like your comments on other topics and I have no personal problem with you. I highly suggest you to read other side of the story before claim anything.

I never see muslim community as an angel and actually I critize them in many cases and I know that muslim community needs serious update and I am open to talk about it but calling an entire religion followers as rapers is different.

If you claim something of course there will be counter claims. This is not propaganda.
 

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islam has become a cult like any other cult .islam of today has nothing to do with the true message of the Quran. Instead of worshipping god alone ,Muslims associate the messenger Muhammad his family his companious with God.Muslims scholars are considered as deities gaining billions through preaching falsehood. Instead of following god scriptures mainly the Quran, Muslims follow hearsays that were written 500 years after the death of Muhammad the same way as Jews who are following other books than the Torah (even though the Torah have been altered ) the same way Christians follow the bible that was written/altered by Paul who was the ardent enemy of God and his messenger Jesus .all religions have the same patterns . Instead of following God words and having a direct connection with God they associate things with him and rely on humans (preachers)in order to worship God. Not only the Islamic preachers have become idols ,they also preach the miss translation of the Quran and the people never question them.god told us not to divide and here are the Muslims are devided into fractions aka madhebs ( مذاهب ) .come back to the pure monotheistic way come back to God scriptures and leave your sects .God punishment is near, 99% of the people have fallen in the trap of satan. No one will save you only God will save you from what is coming.dark winter is coming. The imam Mahdi, Jesus, messiah who will come are all imposters who will lead people directly to hell NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE YOU TRUST NO MAN GOD WILL SAVE YOU BY TAKING YOUR SOULS PEACEFULLy IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CHAOS THAT IS COMING GOD WILL PICK UP HIS TRUE BELEIVERS AND LEAVE THE REST TO TAKE HIS PUNISHMENTS . This the last Waring before the chaos that is coming. For more information. Check the websitesTHETRUTHISFROMGOD
I partially agree with you.
As today, some arabic culture seen as Islamic culture which is totally wrong and cause muslim community to stay behind.
 

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Good evening

I know you hadn't implied this but I want to be clear, Quran is not altered. Muhammad (saw) is a Prophet. We follow his footsteps as he is someone we look up to. In history he took shelter from the Christian kingdom in Abyssinia and he was welcomed. Ask yourself the question, why? He is righteous. He is someone who does not oppress nor force religion on someone. When studying the character of Prophet Muhammad (saw) you will notice that he is fair and righteous to the people even if they are not believers.

He treats people with respect. Prophet Muhammad (saw) prayed to Allah (swt) for his enemies to be guided. How can we not look up to him? I make so many mistakes daily, you do too and people we love do too, we aren't perfect, but Islam is perfect. How can Islam be a cult? Islam itself is perfect. We humans are not perfect, we make mistakes and do our best to improve ourselves. Cults are a big topic and you can't claim that Islam is a cult. I mean, yes you can say and write what you want, but that doesn't mean the truth has changed because of what you wrote. The truth doesn't change.

Muslims do not associate things with Allah (swt). We only ask help from Allah (swt) and we only rely on Him (swt). Faith, we trust Allah (swt). Faith, the word itself means a lot of stuff. Faith is something treasurable. Faith is not what you see with your eyes but what you feel with your soul. I mean, that's my viewpoint so I can be wrong too.

There is a difference between hearsays and Hadiths. Hadiths are confirmed by their chains and there are weak Hadiths and authentic Hadiths. It's a very big topic to learn about it, and I myself still have a lot to learn.

We do not rely on humans, on worldly stuff, on desires or on worldly gains, we only rely on Allah (swt). Allah(swt) free's my heart from this illusion of the world and its temporary desires, from the weight on my shoulders. Even if I relied on whole humankind, no one can help me, because you are a human, and so am I. We are both the same. Wanting happiness, peace and love. We humans have desires and make mistakes and have to learn from them. Only Allah(swt) can help me and guide me. Even if I have the whole world, its pleasures and money and fame, it can't give me happiness, only Allah (swt) can.

And of course we have to work, we have to put in the work to improve ourselves, we have free will to choose, think and take action. We live in this world as a test, for us this world is a prison, and for others this world is heaven. But the true Paradise is in the Hereafter and the true justification we will see then. This world does seem unfair because this world is a test, everyone's actions will be asked on the Day of judgement. The oppressed will get justice, the abused will get justice. People won't be able to run away from their bad deeds and their good deeds. Because Allah (swt) is the most just and most merciful. And we have to stay humble. who are we to feel arrogance, ego and pride? We are humans who are in need of water, food and air, clothes and warmth, how a fool we are to choose to be arrogant.

Okay i just realized I went too off topic but... its fine

I love this verse, it helped me to take action to change myself. I was someone who disliked work, someone who wanted the result and not the progress, but then this world wouldn't make sense, it's the progress that matters because this world is a test.

"Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves."
~ Surat Ar-Ra`d, Verse 11.

Btw If someone reads this and notices I said something wrong please correct me as I'm still learning and my English isn't the best.
thank you.
 

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You are attacking an entire religion and calling Islam evil. That is very different to critising specific individuals or subsects belonging a religion. You can criticise radicals, fringe groups, extremists, specific individuals or groups, but calling an entire religion with billions of followers evil is a different story. I recently called out the evil practices of the Vatican and the establishment there, but that is very different to
blaming it on the Christian religion. No all Muslims are not good people, just like all Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists are not good people. Fringe groups kill other muslims more than any other group... you know like how Isis kills the wrong kind of muslims. However, they don’t represent the absolute majority of muslims and are a lot of other aspects too consider when looking at such groups..such as politics, power play and hidden sponsors.

”Islam is the only religion that kills other religions”... open a history book and it will tell you otherwise. Let’s see: there was the Crusades, the looong wars between Catholics and Protestants in Europe, European invasion of Africa and South America and forced conversions of the natives to Christianity/Catholicism. And if we look beyond religion, the list is very long. The Chinese Communist Party is currently committing mass genocide on the Muslim Uyghurs in concentration camps, similar to those Hitler built. Overall evil exists within humanity and when religion becomes a tool for power it is very easy to get things mixed up.
"You are attacking an entire religion and calling Islam evil. That is very different to critising specific individuals or subsects belonging a religion. You can criticise radicals, fringe groups, extremists, specific individuals or groups, but calling an entire religion with billions of followers evil is a different story. I recently called out the evil practices of the Vatican and the establishment there, but that is very different to
blaming it on the Christian religion."

Yes thank you that was my aim. You explain well.
 

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I’d say don’t trust them. They’re deluded to the max like shippers, even if some of the information they had on the idols are true, most won’t share or talk about (I think some are traumatized by what they find) and would keep it to themselves as a memorabilia of sorts, just my opinion :)
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Oh? For real? I just thought they were valid.. I have been wanting to get valid sasaeng information... (I PROMISE I AM NOT CREEPY)
I am not sure who is valid sasaeng...I my self never seen valid one...and have heard the real sasaeng are rich people and very protective of their idols...and they also make money out of their profession...they sell fake information but the valid information they have they keep it to themselves until the idols do something they don't like, they lash out..like Chen of EXO, they know about his wife long time ago but they kept silent, but once it went out, they were angry...and the real sasaeng are very hard to find..95% of sasaeng are fake
 

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hi @OwlMoon sorry, i looked over the video after you posted, i didn't got the chance to answer.
so, it looks like he's indeed working with sk bioscience, he already gave them millions (link below)
this is quite discouraging, because SK was quite easy on corona and didn't imposed harsh restrictions. with gates involved, it means they will be more willing to come up with excuses and new viruses to test his madness.
it also means he's expanding in asia, which is even worse.
whenever gates is involved////dead zone.

regarding you message about wether we can save ourselves - i don't have much faith.
seeing how a stupid flu virus, with mortality in the same range as last year's flu, which wasn't even the highest mortality rate from the past 10 years ( 3 years ago the flu mortality for ex in germany was double as high the number of deaths from corona this year) has managed to do so much damage when it comes to human rights, i don't think how to protect or save ourselves.
it's people's fault. if at least the majority would if not protest, then at least refuse to work, the government would not have a chance to do anything.
if branches who have the power to do something (gastronomy for ex in germany) would protest and sue the government, for lack of evidence to impose the lockdowns (in europe) or masks, then of course yes. but today an article in germany has uncovered the curious case of the entire gastronomy in germany not complaining at all (with some minor exceptions). it turned out, that they receive some form of benefits from the state, in the legal range but very shady, which is higher than what they've earned so far from last year when they were opened.

they're receiving dirt-money to keep quiet.

corona was an alarm sign, because on paper, no matter how many lies are in the press, on paper the virus is nothing but a more aggressive version of the flu, with a 0.3% mortality rate so far, which is still in the same range as the flu we know.
the evidence speaks that masks cannot protect form the flu (any flu), as they're not filtering anything and social distancing as well as lockdowns are more damaging due to depression and health damages as well as - most important - herd immunity. with no social contact, people cannot develop herd immunity.
sweden - the only country in eu without lockdowns or masks, is perfectly fine.

if people don't listen when you try to present them the fact (very easy to access from various sites in different languages) at least related to a virus, then how are they to understand for ex the dangers of digital euro? many think it's cool. it's even cooler to have a tracking chip in your body because you can pay at the store/...with this kind of mentality we can all simply call a meteor to be erased. I'd rather die of natural causes than trapped and transformed into a robot.

i am saying this because after a discussion with a specialist, unfortunately one of the dangers of viruses made in a lab, is that in a case of a really really nasty one, the only vaccine that can save is the one gates dreams of. and the elite - the one targeting and modifying your dna. this isn't a joke or a theory. the doctor explained and showed me why.
it made sense.
if it comes down to a super virus, the only way out will be either live with your dna mutated and controlled by governments or die.



ps. i don't remember where, but i've read a few months ago about a connection between sk bioscience and BigHit.
It’s ok boti don’t apologise, reading that is very tragic and scary :( Also I think I saw a video talking about BH and bioscience, maybe what you said is true after all Bang Pedo is backed by the government. Didn’t gates started expanding in Asia after working with China? Or they don’t count since they only care about themselves?
 

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I am not sure who is valid sasaeng...I my self never seen valid one...and have heard the real sasaeng are rich people and very protective of their idols...and they also make money out of their profession...they sell fake information but the valid information they have they keep it to themselves until the idols do something they don't like, they lash out..like Chen of EXO, they know about his wife long time ago but they kept silent, but once it went out, they were angry...and the real sasaeng are very hard to find..95% of sasaeng are fake
That seems more logical! But I’ve never thought that rich people could become sasaengs but if you think about it they’re rich and have all the time in the world to stalk and store information, so yes I believe you!
 

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they get angry because of what?
oh yeah...those sasaeng are real psychos. i share sometimes posts from alleged instagram "sasaengs" or "leaked pictures", but those look like some old pictures scrapped out, or people occasionally spotting members out. never something big.
the only one i know of, was the scandal with the hotel and jumping on their beds. it was all over instagram.
sometimes ex girlfriends instagram accounts.
Never heard of the jumping beds sasaengs, if you have the link can you post it here? Who do you think have had girlfriends? I know JK had at least a few not sure of the others tho, I keep hearing from ARMYs that NJ is secretly married and has a kid
 

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Something about Taehyun stands out to me--there's a few in the inustry that do, I don't know why. I won't even really listen to them but just looking at them or their personality does--him, Chen, Taeyeon, Baekhyun, Taemin, Jonghyun (RIP). You know what I just realized, I think it's this really deep underlying sadness, hmm. This is just my gut though. I hope they get out if that's what they want.
Hello!

Yes you’re right, I think those who have been through sadness and despair can feel others pain as well, even through a camera I guess. Or it could just be us projecting through them idk.

But I’ve always had a feeling from Jonghyun, I could never understand that feeling I have from him, it wasn’t romantic or fantasizing but there was a feeling of sadness I felt watching him, I think his eyes were screaming “loneliness”, idk might be reading into this too much. Just look at any interview BTS has had since last year or two, and look at their eyes....empty
 
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