Finding Your Ishta-Devata

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In Sanatana Dharma (Hinduism), it is widely considered that the Ultimate Divinity is incomprehensible, beyond concepts and words. Though it may be possible to ascribe some kind of labels, such as Sat-Chit-Ananda (Eternity, Knowledge, and Bliss) to this Ultimate Reality, it remains in many ways inaccessible, in the sense of not being able to be directly realized or entered into. It would even be possible to say that it is beyond even extremes like Existence/Non-Existence, and thus it is irrelevant whether or not we “believe” in it. This Ultimate Reality is sometimes referred to as Parabrahman.

Sanatana Dharma is not polytheistic. It is Pantheistic and Monistic. However it accepts the idea of various Gods and Goddesses, in the sense of each being representations of different aspects of the Ultimate Reality. Shiva, the ultimate yogi in utterly immovable meditative stability, Krishna, the god of love who dances with the gopis, Kali, the Divine Mother of time and death (Adi-Shakti). Though certain less developed philosophical schools regard one or another of these Deities as being the sole ultimate reality, with some particular form, attributes, personality, within the Advaita (non-dual) school, they are seen for what they are – means of accessing the incomprehensible Ultimate Reality, by giving it some form and attributes representing a particular part of That Which Is.

Tibetan Buddhism also has the idea of a multitude of Gods and Goddesses, which within that system essentially represent different types of enlightened psychological states. This is not a vastly different idea to the Advaita, though it has its own peculiarities, and rejects the various Sanatana philosophies. The Tibetans call the “personal God” of any practitioner the “Yidam”, whereas in Sanatana Dharma it is known as the Ishta-Devata (meaning “cherished Divinity”). This is the particular form to which a practitioner devotes him or herself, meditates upon, recites the name and praises of.

Clearly, every one of us have our own psychological peculiarity, our own particular “soul” which gravitates towards certain things, and rejects others. Perhaps it is personality, something arising in our particular present life, perhaps it is something unchanging in our fundamental nature. Either way, the religious process should be tailored to each person’s individual centre of gravity, and primary attractions. This draws the forces of the person’s spirit in their natural direction, without attempting to distort or repress their way of being, whilst also leading them towards the ultimate goal of self-realization, Moksha, Nirvana, whatever one wishes to call it.

In the East, an Ishta-Devata might be chosen by a Guru, some holy person acting as a guide. They may bring the blessings of an ancient lineage, perhaps stretching back to the living incarnation of some particular deity. However not every Guru really holds such blessings, possesses such capacities. Many, it must be said, are like the “merchants in the temple”. In any case, in the West it is very difficult to come into contact with these things, and hence we are “out on our own” to some degree. We must find our way by ourselves, and one of the keys to finding our way is to find an Ishta-Devata, the particular form of Divinity which we are most attracted to.

Every form, be it Shiva, Parvati, Sarasvati, Vishnu, represents some particular aspect, as already mentioned – but to realize that aspect is to realize the whole, just as one might be able to enter into one place by many different gates. The key in finding an Ishta-Devata is simply to discover the form which we are most attracted to. It is said that there are different kinds of devotional relationships, in which the deity is taken either as the supreme controller of the universe, a master, a friend, a son or daughter, or as one beloved. Some believe there is a hierarchy in this, that devotion to divinity as a son or daughter is higher than as a friend (for example), but perhaps this hierarchical view is rather arbitrary. One must decide for oneself.

Anyway, the Ishta-Devata is simply the one we are drawn to, the one we find most attractive, the one we would want to meet and know. We shouldn’t carry the hangups of the “monotheistic” religions (which are no more monotheistic than Sanatana Dharma anyway), seeing some deities as “superior” to others. Yes, perhaps the “major” deities with some serious tradition of practise are the ones we should take as Ishta-Devata, some of the “minor” deities being more magical forms invoked for specific benefits than aspects of Divinity. But there is certainly no difference between Krishna and Kali, or Durga and Shiva, however much certain partisan and sectarian devotees might wish to convince people otherwise.

Love is the way, and love is the fruit. The Deity you are in love with will be the way in which you come to access Ultimate Reality. The unique quality of your own soul or personality, is also a unique quality of Divinity. You don’t even need to worship only one particular deity, it is quite ok to be attracted to different divinities each in their own way. The important thing is that you practise, this cannot be stressed enough. There may be different prohibitions and demands attached to adoring different forms, however the key is always devotion, Bhakti Yoga, before all else. This means the regular recitation of the Deity’s mantra or name, calling upon them with love (or in confusion, or in being lost, or however you are doing). Bhakti Yoga is considered by many to be the highest spiritual path, and it is certain that Bhakti to the Ishta-Devata will always bear positive fruits.

The funny thing is, you are likely already doing this. If you are practising any religion, you are already worshipping some particular Ishta-Devata. All of the various teachings were originally nothing more than particular ways of understanding Parabrahman, tailored to particular peoples and particular circumstances. They even remain that way, except their followers have become chauvinistic, denying the Divinity of other Divinities, trying to impose their way of thinking upon others. Really they would do better to celebrate every unique manifestation of the Truth, every path which leads to the same destination by a different route. This is a cliched statement, something which has been said many times before, but nonetheless it is important to say in the interests of harmony and “live and let live”.

The Ishta-Devata is your individual path, the junction between the subjective “self” and the objective “absolute”. We will always be happier if we don’t let others put us in some particular mould, attempt to distort us to conform to their perception of what we should be and believe. To worship the Ishta-Devata is to “follow your heart”.

Shantih
 

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"within the Advaita (non-dual) school, they are seen for what they are – means of accessing the incomprehensible Ultimate Reality, by giving it some form and attributes representing a particular part of That Which Is. "

Very well put. Unfortunately, I'm one of the few people here who understand that...
 

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I agree with the live and let live philosophy. So much so that I'll make a deal with the Grim Reaper right now. Now I'm wondering if the reaper is a minor, or major type of diety. Of course, my argument is that it's both.

If minor deities are like the hand of a major deity then human beings are barely a major deity's nose hair. I might even go so far as to say humans are like the boogers God picks and flicks at things that are annoying.
 

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In Sanatana Dharma (Hinduism), it is widely considered that the Ultimate Divinity is incomprehensible, beyond concepts and words..

Hinduism operates the elitist "caste system" which discriminates against ordinary people, is that a good thing?

 

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Hinduism operates the elitist "caste system" which discriminates against ordinary people, is that a good thing?

That is a social enigma, and has nothing to do with religion. Just like the KKK burning crosses have nothing to do with Christianity.
 

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I think i prefer Jesus's attitude to "low-born" people..:)-

1- "Just you stick with me chum"
2- "Thanks JC, you're my main man"
3- "Hey kiddo, why do you talk to common riffraff like him?"

4/5/6- "On yer bikes you numbnuts!"
 

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I think i prefer Jesus's attitude to "low-born" people..:)-

1- "Just you stick with me chum"
2- "Thanks JC, you're my main man"
3- "Hey kiddo, why do you talk to common riffraff like him?"

4/5/6- "On yer bikes you numbnuts!"
Yes, except when the Christian powers go off on their crusades and decide it is their duty to "civilize the savages". Colonial hierarchies were certainly just as bad as the Indian caste system. They even continue today, as the colonized parts of the world remain starving due to the continuing influence of the capitalist economic system, which finds it convenient to have a mass of poor people to cheaply produce goods for wealthier countries.

Anyway, as @Alanantic says, you can't conflate the caste system and the Indian philosophy. Every society has it's issues, but no sensible person would reject all that Plato taught just because he believed in slavery.
 
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I think i prefer Jesus's attitude to "low-born" people..:)-

1- "Just you stick with me chum"
2- "Thanks JC, you're my main man"
3- "Hey kiddo, why do you talk to common riffraff like him?"

4/5/6- "On yer bikes you numbnuts!"
Jesus was racist wasn't he?
compared a samaritan person to a dog.
 

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Colonial hierarchies were certainly just as bad as the Indian caste system..

Nah mate, we white Europeans civilised half the native world, but in recent times they kicked us out and descended back into the jungle-

Example-
"WIKI-Nearly 50 murders are committed each day in South Africa
It is estimated that 500,000 women are raped in South Africa every year
Child r*pe incidences are some of the highest in the world
South Africa has an estimated 6.3 million people living with HIV – more than any other country in the world.

"Middle-class South Africans seek security in gated communities"
 

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Jesus was racist wasn't he?
compared a samaritan person to a dog.
Samaritans rejected Jesus so he rejected them, sounds fair to me..:p
In fact anybody who rejects him will be in a world o' hurt on judgement day-
"Ungodly...These men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed.." (2 Peter 2:12)
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Samaritans rejected Jesus so he rejected them, sounds fair to me..:p
In fact anybody who rejects him will be in a world o' hurt on judgement day-
"Ungodly...These men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed.." (2 Peter 2:12)
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no, she believed in him, he regarded her as a 'dog' and the jews as 'children'.
that's racist mate.

white boy messiah was racist.
 

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no, she believed in him, he regarded her as a 'dog' and the jews as 'children'.
that's racist mate.
white boy messiah was racist.
Sorry, i said Samaritans by mistake, I meant to say "Canaanite".
Basically the Canaanites were Jesus-rejecters so because they didn't want him, he didn't want them.
However the woman kept pleading with him to cure her daughter so he gave in and did so.
 

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Nah mate, we white Europeans civilised half the native world, but in recent times they kicked us out and descended back into the jungle-

Example-
"WIKI-Nearly 50 murders are committed each day in South Africa
It is estimated that 500,000 women are raped in South Africa every year
Child r*pe incidences are some of the highest in the world
South Africa has an estimated 6.3 million people living with HIV – more than any other country in the world.

"Middle-class South Africans seek security in gated communities"
Well Mandela apparently wanted to go for a socialist type of economy, but the IMF etc basically forced them to adopt neo-liberal economic policies, thus leaving much of the country owned by whites (the ones who live in the gated communities) and not many real opportunities for disenfranchised (and traumatized and rightly angry) blacks to get out of poverty. You seem to think that there's something intrinsically wrong with African people, rather than understanding that the continent continues to be exploited by the rich capitalist nations for cheap labour, and that reconstructing ones identity and rediscovering ones humanity after being colonized (after being enslaved) isn't such an easy thing to do. Dealing with real trauma and dehumanization isn't an easy process.

Anyway, try abandoning your racism and waking up to the horrors of what the colonial powers have done. This isn't really the place to discuss it, but check out the story of what Belgian king Leopold II did in the Congo...

In any case, your social criticism really has nothing to do with the Hindu philosophy, no more than critiquing Plato's attitudes to slavery would invalidate his entire philosophical system.
 

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..the horrors of what the colonial powers have done. This isn't really the place to discuss it, but check out the story of what Belgian king Leopold II did in the Congo...

In his book 'Blood River' about his travels in the Congo, Tim Butcher laments how all the infrastructure the Belgians put in place has fallen into overgrown disrepair since they left.

As for South Africa, in his book 'Running With the Moon' about his motorbike ride down the length of Africa, Johnny Bealby, tired of struggling with muddy tracks and trails asked the S.African border guards what the roads were like from now on and they replied with a smile "You're back in civilisation now", because S.A roads were all proper concrete ones.

And in his book 'Gemini to Joburg', about his flight in a light aircraft down to SA, Cecil Lewis was struck by the well-maintained fields from the SA border southwards after thousands of miles of barren wilderness and jungle across Africa on the way down.

Regarding Rhodesia, it was a thriving prosperous place under the white government, but then Mugabe kicked the whites out, renamed it 'Zimbabwe' and it reverted to the jungle within 5 minutes-

 

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Haha we whites are still having to go to Africa to bail them out of trouble..:)-




And any cash raised often ends up in the hands of warlords, what a mess..:)

 

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The Ishta-Devata is your individual path, the junction between the subjective “self” and the objective “absolute”. We will always be happier if we don’t let others put us in some particular mould, attempt to distort us to conform to their perception of what we should be and believe. To worship the Ishta-Devata is to “follow your heart”.
Interesting. I get to pick my own god you say...L0L
 

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In his book 'Blood River' about his travels in the Congo, Tim Butcher laments how all the infrastructure the Belgians put in place has fallen into overgrown disrepair since they left.

As for South Africa, in his book 'Running With the Moon' about his motorbike ride down the length of Africa, Johnny Bealby, tired of struggling with muddy tracks and trails asked the S.African border guards what the roads were like from now on and they replied with a smile "You're back in civilisation now", because S.A roads were all proper concrete ones.

And in his book 'Gemini to Joburg', about his flight in a light aircraft down to SA, Cecil Lewis was struck by the well-maintained fields from the SA border southwards after thousands of miles of barren wilderness and jungle across Africa on the way down.

Regarding Rhodesia, it was a thriving prosperous place under the white government, but then Mugabe kicked the whites out, renamed it 'Zimbabwe' and it reverted to the jungle within 5 minutes-

You mean all the infrastructure the same Belgians responsible for the deaths of millions under Leopold II, who cut off black labourers hands as punishment, created? Well obviously after having such a hellish experience, those populations are going to be traumatized, and probably would naturally reject even the "good" things their oppressors left behind because they associate it with the traumatic experience they had. As for Mugabe, I'm not a fan or anything, but he was obviously symptomatic of a problem white people created.

Anyway, I can't really be bothered to debate this stuff with you, clearly you are an unconscious (or even conscious) racist, trying to blame the problems of Africa on some kind of inherent inferiority of the people, rather than facing the reality that it is us "Westerners" who created much of it. If you want to hear about colonialism from the perspective of its traumatic effects on the colonized, I recommend "The Wretched of the Earth" by Frantz Fanon.

You can relate as many anecdotes as you want in an attempt to put the blame on the victims, but whatever the situation may be, they aren't going to capture what was responsible for that situation clearly. You really need to try to understand it from the perspective of the people, with an understanding of what colonialism caused on a psychological level - and then you will realize that given a similar situation, you and all the other "superior" Westerners would respond in exactly the same way. How would you like it if I rock up tomorrow and declare England to be my territory and try to (force) convert everyone to Hinduism? Then subject you to all kinds of oppression, violence, dehumanization, infantilization etc. Seriously, how do you think you would react?

Well, let's save this debate for elsewhere, or nowhere, because I can't really be bothered with it. Because this has gone way off topic.
 
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