Its hard for fallen man to accept the notion of being accountable to a holy God that hates the very things that his sinful heart takes pleasure in. I remember playing an online video game a while back and someone put their mic next to a speaker playing a sermon on hell and repentance. You would not believe the reaction it got. People lost their minds. You could tell they were under the conviction of the holy spirit. These people were just screaming and hissing at the person to shut it off. It reminded me of the passage in Hebrews that says the word of God is sharper than any two edge sword. These people were absolutely cut to the heart and gnashing their teeth.That's why they stoned Stephen. He told them about themselves. No wonder pastors are wary of rebuking.
Telling anyone about himself usually ends badly because people are generally self-righteous and arrogant. In other words they believe their own bull#&$t.
Its amazing what lengths people will go to justify their sins. And they separate themselves from the destruction that stems from their actions.
There needs to be an exposure of the epidemic of these dead imposter churches. Its the only way the culture will see that what they represent is not truly of God. It is not real Christianity. Allot of the people who attend these churches see no need for evangelism and preaching the gospel. No true assembly of Christ will fail to see the absolute need there is for the world to know the only salvation of God through Christ. Its all that matters. I really believe that if a church doesnt actively evangelise or encourage its flock to evangelize then its a dead church. Sadly if you warn people of hell and their need to repent you are viewed as a fanatic or accused of being hateful or unloving. This is how deceived the world is.
True Christians are seen as fanatics. They always have been. They have been called cults and worse. Sadly the truth of God is strange to the world and even within Christendom.Sadly if you warn people of hell and their need to repent you are viewed as a fanatic or accused of being hateful or unloving.
The pharisees obsession with the sabbath caused them to hate Christ... because Jesus did good work on the sabbath.I've been called a legalist here for saying we should obey all God's commandments not just some of them. This was on the Sabbath thread where I was saying most Christians break the Sabbath commandment because the actual sabbath day is Saturday not Sunday the first day of the week.
Except the part that says remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.That's all.
Set apart.Except the part that says remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
What does it mean to keep it holy?
I know this question was not meant for me but I hope you don't mind if i answer it.Except the part that says remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
What does it mean to keep it holy?
The only people who observe the Sabbath, in the New Testament as now, are the Jews. The Bible says that the disciples assembled together on Sunday to break bread (Act.20.7). Moreover, the Didache says to observe the Lord's Day and says nothing about keeping the Sabbath, but it does say "do not be like the hypocrites" (i.e. the Jews) and says to have different fast days to them. Telling Christians to keep the Sabbath is seeking commonality with those who said of Christ: "This man is not of God because he does not keep the Sabbath." (Joh.9.16) But this is not surprising coming from those who also deride Christian feast days like Pascha and the Nativity.God wants the Sabbath to be a delight for us, to be the happiest day of the week. A day that we can fully rest in Him, worship Him as our Creator, fellowship with other believers, and reach out to others in Christian love.
The Sabbath has never been Jewish not in the Old or New Testaments. It was intituted during the creation week by God. "Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made" (Genesis 2:1, 3). Adam and Eve were not Jewish and it would be 2000 plus years before an Israelite existed.The only people who observe the Sabbath, in the New Testament as now, are the Jews.
Breaking bread simply means having a meal. We can have meals on other days of the week, in fact if we don't we'll starve. This does not mean the disciples did not observe the Sabbath day as we are all commanded to do in God's eternal law. They did.The Bible says that the disciples assembled together on Sunday to break bread (Act.20.7).
The Didache is not the Bible or any of the other lost books. A lot that is written in those books contradict the Bible. Anything that contradicts the Bible is false.Moreover, the Didache says to observe the Lord's Day and says nothing about keeping the Sabbath, but it does say "do not be like the hypocrites" (i.e. the Jews) and says to have different fast days to them.
John 9 is where Jesus gives sight to a man who was born blind during one of the festivals in Jerusalem. After the man was healed, the Pharisees asked him how he received his sight. He told them how Jesus had put clay on his eyes and when he washed them he could see. So the Pharisees said that Jesus was not a man of God because he had broken the Sabbath by healing him on it. They asked the man what he says of Jesus and the man said He is a prophet. The Pharisees rejected the healing of the man as well as Jesus. Their hearts had been hardened to the truth of God at that point.Telling Christians to keep the Sabbath is seeking commonality with those who said of Christ: "This man is not of God because he does not keep the Sabbath." (Joh.9.16)
We deride celebrating Easter and Christmas because they are not Christian. Their origins are pagan but how they are celebrated changed and Christian themes were added to them. They are man made traditions. Biblically we are not obliged to celebrate them. Jesus' death should be something we always remember as Christians. We are saved because of His sacrifice for us if we accept it.But this is not surprising coming from those who also deride Christian feast days like Pascha and the Nativity.
The Apostles went into synagogues on the Sabbath to preach the Gospel because that is when and where Jews congregate, though there were also Gentiles (non-Jews) among them. Can you point to any instance of churches observing or being instructed to observe the Sabbath after the Ascension?Its also not true that only Jews observed the Sabbath in the New Testament. When the gospel was preached to the Gentiles they too observed the Sabbath. "So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath" ( Acts 13:42). There were many issues within the early Christian Church but the Sabbath was never an issue for both Jews and Gentiles.
My take-away from this is that the Sabbath was not made so that man would be obligated to observe it, but you seem to think it means that all people should observe it. I guess it's a matter of perspective.Plus Jesus said, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27). So the Sabbath was made for the whole human race not just Jews.
Breaking bread refers to the Eucharistic tradition instituted by Christ as a sign of the New Covenant: He took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and gave to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you. Do this in memory of me." (Luk.22.19) Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don't have life in yourselves." (Joh.6:53)Breaking bread simply means having a meal. We can have meals on other days of the week, in fact if we don't we'll starve. This does not mean the disciples did not observe the Sabbath day as we are all commanded to do in God's eternal law. They did.
The Didache is a very ancient document which contains the teachings of the Twelve Apostles and doesn't contradict the Bible in any way. But what you consider to be the Bible is also based on a tradition of the early Church which sometimes included the Didache, the Shepherd of Hermas, the Epistle of Barnabas etc. in the canon. For instance, the first time we have a New Testament list which matches the accepted canon is in an Easter letter of St. Athanasius from the 4th century, and in it he includes the Didache as a book to be read, though not in the canon proper.The Didache is not the Bible or any of the other lost books. A lot that is written in those books contradict the Bible. Anything that contradicts the Bible is false.
No, it isn't: the Lord's Day is the day of the Resurrection. If you translate the word Sunday into Greek you will see that it is Kyriake, which means "lord's day".The Lord's day in the Bible is the Sabbath. Its Seventh day of the week that the Lord blessed and hallowed.
I showed you a passage from the Bible which proves they did but you dismiss it by reinterpreting what it means to "break bread" to suit your beliefs.During the early Christian church no one observed the first day of the week which is Sunday. It came later and the Catholics claim it to be their day.
I think the majority draw this conclusion by default by believing in mans testimony about himself, but mans testimony about himself is very different from the reality and the Bibles verdict of man.Come to think of it the world does not hate true Christianity. It is gentle and kind. True Christianity is to serve, to put others before oneself. To even renounce the self! A true Christian's aspiration is to climb Peter's ladder 2 Peter 1:5-8
So now that you know both Jews and Gentiles observed the Sabbath in the New Testament, you've come up with another reason why the congregated at the synagogues apart from observing the Sabbath?The Apostles went into synagogues on the Sabbath to preach the Gospel because that is when and where Jews congregate, though there were also Gentiles (non-Jews) among them. Can you point to any instance of churches observing or being instructed to observe the Sabbath after the Ascension?
Its not a matter of perspective. If you're a Christian its a matter of doing God's will or following man made tradition.My take-away from this is that the Sabbath was not made so that man would be obligated to observe it, but you seem to think it means that all people should observe it. I guess it's a matter of perspective.
Yes bread was broken during the communion service that was instituted by Christ as a commemoration of His death on the cross. However the word's "breaking bread" were used to also mean having a meal together too, "So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart" (Acts 2:46). If we assume that “breaking bread” means having a communion service every time, then the believers in the above verse were celebrating every day! Since this is the only record of a Christian meeting on the first day of the week (it would have said Sabbath if it was the day of rest in the New Testament), would it not be mentioned if it was a communion service? But the key point of this story is the resurrection of a dead believer.Breaking bread refers to the Eucharistic tradition instituted by Christ as a sign of the New Covenant: He took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and gave to them, saying, "This is my body which is given for you. Do this in memory of me." (Luk.22.19) Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don't have life in yourselves." (Joh.6:53)
The Didache contradicts the word of God on the Sabbath and on more subjects, so its not the inspired Word of God. I reject it therefore and all Christians should too.The Didache is a very ancient document which contains the teachings of the Twelve Apostles and doesn't contradict the Bible in any way. But what you consider to be the Bible is also based on a tradition of the early Church which sometimes included the Didache, the Shepherd of Hermas, the Epistle of Barnabas etc. in the canon. For instance, the first time we have a New Testament list which matches the accepted canon is in an Easter letter of St. Athanasius from the 4th century, and in it he includes the Didache as a book to be read, though not in the canon proper.
No it is not. It doesn't matter what Sunday translates to in Greek, the first day of the week (Sunday) the day Jesus resurrected on is not called "the Lord's day."No, it isn't: the Lord's Day is the day of the Resurrection. If you translate the word Sunday into Greek you will see that it is Kyriake, which means "lord's day".
That is NOT proof of observing the Sabbath. No where does the Bible show that part of observing the Sabbath is the breaking of bread.I showed you a passage from the Bible which proves they did but you dismiss it by reinterpreting what it means to "break bread" to suit your beliefs.
It is because we are made in the image of God that we still retain the inner faculty to know what is good, but knowing what is good and knowing that we should celebrate and acknowledge good(according to our conscience) is not the same as acctually being good or doing good. Its not the same as loving good from the heart. The difference between us and God is that God loves righteousness and righteous deeds. Humans know what good is as their conscience bears witness, but for the most part they remain relatively indifferent to it. People do good as obligatory when good is Gods very nature. Christ came as a light and shined brightly exposing man for what he really is.@Lyfe
Great points! Thank you. Jesus found me in very poor condition, very poor. He is reforming me as well.
What of the examples over time, people who have demonstrated Jesus' grace? The martyrs, Mother Theresa, the entire school that shaved their heads for one student with cancer. It can be contagious!
There is something about grace that is considered a novelty this day and age, akin to "a puppy gets a home" story. It makes the evil heart pause for a second and try to comprehend.
But I suppose that's not enough. Maybe that's why Jesus comes to us individually instead of collectively.