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not bts related but entertainment industry related you can read up this word given from the Lord on what actually goes on https://the-masters-voice.com/2022/08/19/the-sodomy-ritual-the-dirt-of-hollywood-pt-2-july-17-2022/

"Transference of Spirits Through Occult Rituals

With rituals come demons and with demonic states comes TRANSFERENCE which is
among other things a process where evil spirits are passed through physical sexual contact-
whether by r*pe, sodomy, or other types of molestation that break the gates of a person's soul
and gives the demons access.

Transference is what God says is being practiced on many stars who are forced
to perform rituals, those who agree to do it, and the population on a mass scale. It's
happening on a massive scale where demons have free access to millions and can easily affect
them at a social level, or through spiritual oppression and demonic states [all this is the result
of demonic rituals done by single and married superstars from all walks of life, including
politicians but especially rappers and singers who are influencing people by their music,
videos and lyrics]. There is a reason these people travel extensively, performing even when
they're very tired and have been on the road for months on end. They have their end of the
bargain to hold up in terms of creating, maintaining and contributing to worldwide occult
energy and powers.

Rituals are practised on the population on a mass scale and have occurred all over the world at
Beyoncé's concerts Jay-Z's concerts, shows for Rihanna, Future, Kanye West and multiple
mega superstars like Lady Gaga. Rituals occur frequently at shows of music stars and even on
the set of some movies.

It occurs on the runway - models are asked to participate in 'mantras' 'tuning' and 'good
energy' but all it is all a trigger point for DEMONS TO ENTER AND TAKE CONTROL. Every
ritual serves a purpose, to create defilement of whoever views or listens to the end product.
Some are done to freshly conjure evil spirits while other rituals focus on transferring demons
to the public and even the staff and crew of the singer, modeling house or movie company.

The music of demon-worshippers is defilement itself, full of spells, chants, mind-control
and evil suggestions that incant wickedness over people who listen to it. The Lord was
saying if you listen to it you are automatically participating in the ritual. People become
participators in the spell by repeating the lines of the music over and over to themselves and
to one another. The more it is sung, the more it is released as an incantation and powerful
'spellbinding' over them. This is typical for rock music spells where riffs and chords can be
used to excite the spiritual world without anybody knowing a thing. This is why when crowds
reach fever pitch in stadiums during music shows, some people who are weaker in bodily
constitution or spirit begin to rapidly convulse, go into shock, go into mentally altered
states and some suffer the full effect of the spell and die."
 
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Gross. Who sits this way to take a pic??
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I also saw this on twttr.
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I don't know what hype is selling...another photo book perhaps, but notice T@e is randomly holding icecream. It doesn't even make sense to include it with this theme. I know a lot of people don't believe the occult or p*do symbolism discussed on here...but I mean come on?? At some point you have to wonder why are the Kpop companies so obsessed with their idols pictured with pizza, in laundromats, and ice cream.
 

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Gross. Who sits this way to take a pic??
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I also saw this on twttr.
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I know a lot of people don't believe the occult or p*do symbolism discussed on here...but I mean come on?? At some point you have to wonder why are the Kpop companies so obsessed with their idols pictured with pizza, in laundromats, and ice cream.

im pretty sure most people here do...the whole purposse of this site is to discusse the symbols
and yeah the Ice cream and this "sexy" photos are pretty creepy

i saw JK was doing some type of "vampire" concept too
in this video


not sure if this is supposed to be atractive? just a very creppy video
 

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Gross. Who sits this way to take a pic??
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I also saw this on twttr.
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I don't know what hype is selling...another photo book perhaps, but notice T@e is randomly holding icecream. It doesn't even make sense to include it with this theme. I know a lot of people don't believe the occult or p*do symbolism discussed on here...but I mean come on?? At some point you have to wonder why are the Kpop companies so obsessed with their idols pictured with pizza, in laundromats, and ice cream.
A guy in his 20's, acting like a dumb immature kid, yes really interesting
 

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im pretty sure most people here do...the whole purposse of this site is to discusse the symbols
and yeah the Ice cream and this "sexy" photos are pretty creepy

i saw JK was doing some type of "vampire" concept too
in this video


not sure if this is supposed to be atractive? just a very creppy video
He looks sad and miserable in that
 

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im pretty sure most people here do...the whole purposse of this site is to discusse the symbols
I agree with you with this site, but I think this thread in particular is a mixed bag of some that believe and others that don't. It could be the title of this thread is not specific enough like the Kpop one is. This thread is only called a discussion one. When people bring up occult symbolism or heavy topics on here, there are often people that dismiss it or show disinterest. This doesn't really happen on the Kpop thread. In fact, I'd say that the topics people tend to respond to the most on this b*s thread deal with gossip..who's dating who..sexuality of members etc. That's my observation anyway.
saw JK was doing some type of "vampire" concept too
in this video
Wow, idk this looked very demonic to me. I haven't seen this before so thanks for sharing. There were so many flashes of images that you can't tell what you're looking at. If you scroll between 17sec and 18 seconds you can see the outline of a strange figure?? It's literally blink and you'll miss it. Plus a flash of a pomegranate that kind of looks likes a human heart at around 20 sec mark. I had to pause to see it. Then a flash of jk's ruby red lips and splatters of paint made to look like blood. Very dark and disturbing imagery.

I read that pomegranates can symbolize death. Also, ancient Sumerians believed that the souls of the dead ate pomegranate seeds to become immortal.
 

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Guys, this was RM's pictorial today released. It is interesting because of the choice of the title - "Entirety" - Entirety means wholeness. But these occultic people's wholeness can mean something else right. Its like demonic enlightment of some sort.

Like it shows RM, ( in black) - denoting his soul (which is empty and soulless, and demonic), while surrounded by light. The white light in contrast to the black shadow can mean duality. We know duality carries a lot of weight in the occultic world. Like yin and yang.

Its like Rm is telling people that he has a dark, evil and a emotionless soul and there is no going back. He has learned to balance with the light and he has reached wholeness or oneness.

What do you think ?
 

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Guys, this was RM's pictorial today released. It is interesting because of the choice of the title - "Entirety" - Entirety means wholeness. But these occultic people's wholeness can mean something else right. Its like demonic enlightment of some sort.

Like it shows RM, ( in black) - denoting his soul (which is empty and soulless, and demonic), while surrounded by light. The white light in contrast to the black shadow can mean duality. We know duality carries a lot of weight in the occultic world. Like yin and yang.

Its like Rm is telling people that he has a dark, evil and a emotionless soul and there is no going back. He has learned to balance with the light and he has reached wholeness or oneness.

What do you think ?
wow
it seems these pictorials are going to be full of symbolism
just a very dark vibe going on with bt5 now
 

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Like it shows RM, ( in black) - denoting his soul (which is empty and soulless, and demonic), while surrounded by light. The white light in contrast to the black shadow can mean duality. We know duality carries a lot of weight in the occultic world. Like yin and yang
This duality is seen with Jkay's too.. FaTpQZOXwAAxCFS.jpeg.jpg
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Light then shrouded in darkness. B*s has this theme often of them losing innocence and being overtaken by evil. Fans think they are being deep with all this symbolism and imagery. Anyway, I could have sworn someone once discussed on here what curtains means, especially red ones, but yeah. I also wanted to point out Jkay is photographed in animal print yet again.
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This duality is seen with Jkay's too.. View attachment 79959
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Light then shrouded in darkness. B*s has this theme often of them losing innocence and being overtaken by evil. Fans think they are being deep with all this symbolism and imagery. Anyway, I could have sworn someone once discussed on here what curtains means, especially red ones, but yeah. I also wanted to point out Jkay is photographed in animal print yet again.
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Not surprised by JK's animal print as we all know what it means. Its disgusting, but I think he is numb to it. Not surprising to be honest! It was sad, but not anymore. JK knows what he is doing.

Well, now that they lost their innocence, it is what it is! They had a choice to be free, but their greedy ego rejected it. Now they are suffering from it. Gaunt looks, soulless eyes, looking older than they are. Probably sleepless nights.
 

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This duality is seen with Jkay's too.. View attachment 79959
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Light then shrouded in darkness. B*s has this theme often of them losing innocence and being overtaken by evil. Fans think they are being deep with all this symbolism and imagery. Anyway, I could have sworn someone once discussed on here what curtains means, especially red ones, but yeah. I also wanted to point out Jkay is photographed in animal print yet again.
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2. The foreskin of an uncircumcised penis , based on the foreskin being drawn over the glans like a curtain. = Curtain. It has sexual connotation.


Why beef curtains? Hey, you asked. The term likens the lips of the vagina (labia majora)—when elongated or stretched in some way—to fleshy, foldy drapery, like slices of roast beef. And so, of course roast beef curtains is a common form of this slang in the US. = beef curtains (red curtains)

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2. The foreskin of an uncircumcised penis , based on the foreskin being drawn over the glans like a curtain. = Curtain. It has sexual connotation.


Why beef curtains? Hey, you asked. The term likens the lips of the vagina (labia majora)—when elongated or stretched in some way—to fleshy, foldy drapery, like slices of roast beef. And so, of course roast beef curtains is a common form of this slang in the US. = beef curtains (red curtains)

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OMG! I should have known it would be something like that if it's in Jkay's concept. His photo shoots and performances always have sexual undertones. Thanks for letting me know though.
 

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Not surprised by JK's animal print as we all know what it means. Its disgusting, but I think he is numb to it. Not surprising to be honest! It was sad, but not anymore. JK knows what he is doing.

Well, now that they lost their innocence, it is what it is! They had a choice to be free, but their greedy ego rejected it. Now they are suffering from it. Gaunt looks, soulless eyes, looking older than they are. Probably sleepless nights.
Yes he surely knows what he doing, like I wrote in another post, always saw him as a victim since he start really young but not anymore
 

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Yeah, I think someone posted about it back there. The fact that T*e is promoting it should clue people in.. View attachment 79890
It's from an artist named Woo Kukwon. He has very questionable works...
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This one's called "feel my a**"
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So weird and creepy. And I've been said T*e makes me uncomfortable when he's with children. The little boy that did inner child with him was once pictured with a big teddy bear on his insta...and we've talked about what teddy bears mean. The boy or should I say his management/parents posted other pics related to t*e to help boost fame.
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Did you notice the handkerchief Jeon had in his latest ytb video?!? It has pedo symbols as well. Like they couldve get him a white or any other one but they choose this instead!
And the vampire concept! Isnt It basically drinking humans blood to be immortal and "Forever young" which by the way is one of their and many other celebrities/idols era or song.
Also the whole darkening soul talk, wasnt just a talk, like i said before they're trying to make people be ok with emerging with their bad sides, /accepting all their twisted ass desires.
The whole process of darkening soul, is disgusting asf, the things they do to be part of what they call it "illumination" is really fucked up, it goes mainly through rituals, since demons get involved, the reason why they always say "we/you never walk alone" and him who was abused the most, promoting it, just shows how fucked up he really is, plus the way he talks was as if he's on some heroin and shit.
Also like ya'll said, the concept of balancing the darkness and the light, they actually believe that they're the choosen one and they're the one in the light, "illuminati" so basically the light both Rm and Jeon had in their concept, is for them the right way, to reach the ultimate power, "become a god / an immortal" ...
 

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Guys, this was RM's pictorial today released. It is interesting because of the choice of the title - "Entirety" - Entirety means wholeness. But these occultic people's wholeness can mean something else right. Its like demonic enlightment of some sort.

Like it shows RM, ( in black) - denoting his soul (which is empty and soulless, and demonic), while surrounded by light. The white light in contrast to the black shadow can mean duality. We know duality carries a lot of weight in the occultic world. Like yin and yang.

Its like Rm is telling people that he has a dark, evil and a emotionless soul and there is no going back. He has learned to balance with the light and he has reached wholeness or oneness.

What do you think ?
I was so exhausted from my job yesterday (and this week in general. I started this job two weeks ago and I've got a lot of kids who need a lot of help with so many things. Which is totally fine, I adore them all but it's a lot of work) that I never got into the occult/duality/paganism discussion.

I have a unique-ish perspective to bring to this because I'm Igbo. Igbo are not necessarily pagan, but other indigenous groups around the world are "pagan", as in, they believe in multiple gods/deities/symbols/idols. If we take a moment to delve into anthropology and the history of religions, paganism came first. I'm not trying to downplay Christianity, I'm simply speaking from a scientific point of view. (FYI, Igbo funerals involve animal sacrifices, which is why I don't practice the religion because I'm not into doing that). To explain this more, the traditional Igbo religion has a god who is above all others, and there are lesser gods which are worshipped too. Igbo adopt the duality mindset of paganism also.

Igbo religion is hard to explain to non-Igbo. Duality is our culture is about coexistence. We believe what we believe and we are aware of other beliefs. This is why we believe anyone can be Igbo if they reside in Igbo-land. We have often been labeled as progressive and we are not, we are just practicing a thousands years old pagan mindset of seeing ourselves as existing within a world where we worship many things and integrate those things into our daily lives. Which brings me to a second point, that paganism is also when a religion and culture share the same space. The religious practice is a way of life, because of how the two are connected. It's not the same as Christianity being a part of someone's life or someone living by their religion. You can, and often do in Christianity function outside of your religious mindset. Pagans don't do that; life/culture and religion are the same. (If you want to see it another way, look into the Greek philosophy about how playing and learning are the same. It's not that children learn through play, or that they learn because they play, it's because playing is learning and learning is playing).

The Kpop duality of "cute vs. badass/sexy" has never really bothered me, because at it's core, it's just a way for netizens to say "Look at how this idol can be so adorable one minute and hot the next! They are so versatile as an artist!" It's not versatility at all but that's how most Kpop fans view it so it works for those idols and for their companies. I can pull off duality right now with my phone's camera by taking a cute selfie then a sexy selfie and call it a day. It's something that anyone else with 0% talent can do. It's annoying and dumb that people label that as talent and versatile but it is what it is.

What I hate passionately, are JK's "meat curtain" and RM doing this entirety photo thing. This is not the typical duality within Kpop. This is an attempt at stealing duality from REAL pagans who practice religion NORMALLY. (By normal, I mean in a way that does not do harm to other people). It is, once again, a bastardization of indigenous peoples from around the world. It's also strangely sexual, and I can assure all of you right now that REAL paganism DOES NOT approach duality in this way, and anyone who says otherwise to you is lying.

The paganism that I'm used to typically doesn't view duality and wholeness as a balance between dark and light, or good and evil. It's supposed to be about people coming together. What JK and RM have done so far is wrong on so many levels.

Duality does carry a lot of weight because like I described above, it's about a way of life/culture. Modern-day occultists/paganists have really taken this and played around with it without acknowledging the meaning and where it actually came from. It's not cultural appropriation, it's theft. It's also taking something which was intended to promote equality and unity among people and applying beliefs to it which don't make sense in the religion's origin and are also really offensive. They are also doing this for profit, which is disgusting.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask me.
 

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I was so exhausted from my job yesterday (and this week in general. I started this job two weeks ago and I've got a lot of kids who need a lot of help with so many things. Which is totally fine, I adore them all but it's a lot of work) that I never got into the occult/duality/paganism discussion.

I have a unique-ish perspective to bring to this because I'm Igbo. Igbo are not necessarily pagan, but other indigenous groups around the world are "pagan", as in, they believe in multiple gods/deities/symbols/idols. If we take a moment to delve into anthropology and the history of religions, paganism came first. I'm not trying to downplay Christianity, I'm simply speaking from a scientific point of view. (FYI, Igbo funerals involve animal sacrifices, which is why I don't practice the religion because I'm not into doing that). To explain this more, the traditional Igbo religion has a god who is above all others, and there are lesser gods which are worshipped too. Igbo adopt the duality mindset of paganism also.

Igbo religion is hard to explain to non-Igbo. Duality is our culture is about coexistence. We believe what we believe and we are aware of other beliefs. This is why we believe anyone can be Igbo if they reside in Igbo-land. We have often been labeled as progressive and we are not, we are just practicing a thousands years old pagan mindset of seeing ourselves as existing within a world where we worship many things and integrate those things into our daily lives. Which brings me to a second point, that paganism is also when a religion and culture share the same space. The religious practice is a way of life, because of how the two are connected. It's not the same as Christianity being a part of someone's life or someone living by their religion. You can, and often do in Christianity function outside of your religious mindset. Pagans don't do that; life/culture and religion are the same. (If you want to see it another way, look into the Greek philosophy about how playing and learning are the same. It's not that children learn through play, or that they learn because they play, it's because playing is learning and learning is playing).

The Kpop duality of "cute vs. badass/sexy" has never really bothered me, because at it's core, it's just a way for netizens to say "Look at how this idol can be so adorable one minute and hot the next! They are so versatile as an artist!" It's not versatility at all but that's how most Kpop fans view it so it works for those idols and for their companies. I can pull off duality right now with my phone's camera by taking a cute selfie then a sexy selfie and call it a day. It's something that anyone else with 0% talent can do. It's annoying and dumb that people label that as talent and versatile but it is what it is.

What I hate passionately, are JK's "meat curtain" and RM doing this entirety photo thing. This is not the typical duality within Kpop. This is an attempt at stealing duality from REAL pagans who practice religion NORMALLY. (By normal, I mean in a way that does not do harm to other people). It is, once again, a bastardization of indigenous peoples from around the world. It's also strangely sexual, and I can assure all of you right now that REAL paganism DOES NOT approach duality in this way, and anyone who says otherwise to you is lying.

The paganism that I'm used to typically doesn't view duality and wholeness as a balance between dark and light, or good and evil. It's supposed to be about people coming together. What JK and RM have done so far is wrong on so many levels.

Duality does carry a lot of weight because like I described above, it's about a way of life/culture. Modern-day occultists/paganists have really taken this and played around with it without acknowledging the meaning and where it actually came from. It's not cultural appropriation, it's theft. It's also taking something which was intended to promote equality and unity among people and applying beliefs to it which don't make sense in the religion's origin and are also really offensive. They are also doing this for profit, which is disgusting.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask me.
Could you detail, what is the importance of rituals?
 
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