I wanted to bring something up and that is the very nature of suffering in life and how I am really struggling with the idea of a good God. Now I have always heard this argument but it's clear I have never really suffered enough.
As much as I understand the concepts. For instance the paradox of. Live a good life, but do not value ur life here on earth. Look to the next life. But in the same breath is this life is bad. Do not moan or groan. Personally I have become confused on what or who God is.
I don't know if I'm being punished or being saved. I'm supposed to feel grateful for tragedy in life or at least resigned which is counterintuitive. I struggle to find a meaning in life when God makes himself almost impossible to detect in the journey of my life in a sense of the roadmap Is not your typical get saved and become okay.
I'm reminded of the man who wrote it is well with my soul - Horatio, but you know as much as I want it to be well with my soul that sentiment just doesn't cut it.
Then I look at some of the fates that have befallen people particularly rare diseases such as fatal familial insomnia, crutzefeld Jakob disease. And see immense suffering inflicted upon someone to the degree that I do not see a reason.
A big side of me just doesnt get it.
The wrath of God poured out on the cross, I just don't get it. Why do we need to be tortured in an eternity to satisfy Gods wrath on our sin. Why not obliterate it ?
I have accepted some of these things on faith without fully agreeing or understanding at times. Particularly when I am faced with my own suffering and my own circumstances and how unfailingly ironic the affliction has been. To the point that I'm surprised I do not go around living life in reverse in hopes of the opposite happening.
If God doesn't move in ur life and grant u peace or if he doesn't resolve whatever u have going In and instead wether it's ur fault or not further complexes issues u came to him to resolve for.
Could one be pushed too far to the point where belief in God has been made almost impossible. Can God push us too far and if so why?
Alot of the issues I feel Christians find hard to rectify are much easier to muse on and assert from a Christian view aslong as they are not actually happening.
I post this thread out of angst and frustration. And on a bit of a merry go round with faith. I don't see the plan, I mean I don't see the good, I don't see how the being allowing this CAN be good. And when I look at others suffering in this life either it means something or it doesnt this life and I just can't fully reconcile it right now and that's not to say I won't someday because without God my life feels even emptier but there's a certain satisfaction In the rebellion given that it intuitively what is happening and why just doesn't feel right.
I think I kind of get your point of view in some sense. Does it all boil down to, if God is so good why does he allow bad things to happen to people in a sense.
And I fell back for the past months which led me to these extensive thoughts however came back since life without God was utter emptiness, the deep flippin gutter and seeking temporary pleasures.
God is a judge from my understanding, a righteous one and I believe he allowed humans to be parents to grasp somewhat of the concept he has. If your children do something wrong or against your rules, you punish them. Now let's say your child rapes or kills your other child. What do you do? , how do you feel,? do you still love them? and how would you punish them? Then place that into God's perspective.
A normal human I suppose would renounce that child as a bastard or try to defend them by all means. Thus God having created the law, he never changes thus he, knowing that no one would be left and loving his creation he had to judge himself in flesh for the sins of humanity combined. We became fatherless however within the concept of love he was willing to accept us "if" we would change just like a parent would, if your child doesn't continue causing havoc in other people's lives then can you be civil with them.
We do this to people as well, people who are so disgustingly evil that they make your stomach churn like the elite families ritualistic abuse. We want them to suffer for their actions, we want them to die in agony, thus what makes us think God who created us won't have the same level of disgust and imagine if he didn't do anything about it. Our ears would be puffed with smoke since justice should be served.
Now also unfortunately due to the original sin there are reprucusions for that. The moment sin was injected within the human race, we became susceptible to any kind of demonic attack since God became disconnected from us. That is why I believe the sin which was committed in the garden of Eden was way worse then a bite of an actual fruit. I
It had to have had an impact so great that it brought forth pain and agony,everything to do with blood.
Now God could've obliterated the devil there and then however he didn't since he wanted us to see him for what he is and experience what kind of leader he will be. And all the devil does is bring forth misery.
I am genuinely a living testament to the grace of God, I don't know how my life will be in the future but my wars are internal in the comfort of my home where I can eat enough to be satisfied , I have no fatal disease. And if one wishes to be healed, all they have to do is believe and they shall be healed. The concept does not change that's why the LOA thrives in today's society. It works but it's dependent on different powers.
But I do have a question, how is evil outside of God if God is all there is? I know that evil comes from perversion of good but it would've made more sense if there was another demon which made itself and perverted good while God was good and all knowing. I'm a bit conflicted