George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

Thunderian

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I’m for protest. It’s an American right.

I’m not for looting and rioting. Reasons being is they destroy their own communities which impedes progress. They’ll argue they are just stores, restaurants. But when those stores and restaurants decide to quit their lease, etc. Businesses pull out, it dominoes. Detroit is an example.

But I’m also under the belief their is a third party that is agitating the situation. I actually talked about this a few nights ago
There are two things going on. There are righteous protests against the murder of George Floyd and against police racism, and there is an insurrection by leftist agitators. We are conflating them on this thread and in public discourse and that’s a mistake.

I am for the protests, but I hate the people who’ve used the cover of George Floyd’s murder to burn, destroy and kill.
 






weskrongden

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There are two things going on. There are righteous protests against the murder of George Floyd and against police racism, and there is an insurrection by leftist agitators. We are conflating them on this thread and in public discourse and that’s a mistake.

I am for the protests, but I hate the people who’ve used the cover of George Floyd’s murder to burn, destroy and kill.
Police racism isn't a serious issue. 9 unarmed blacks were shot by police in all of 2019. Please stop being an uninformed virtue signaling boomer.
 






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There are two things going on. There are righteous protests against the murder of George Floyd and against police racism, and there is an insurrection by leftist agitators. We are conflating them on this thread and in public discourse and that’s a mistake.

I am for the protests, but I hate the people who’ve used the cover of George Floyd’s murder to burn, destroy and kill.
This. Is. Not. The. Left. For the millionth freaking time. There’s how many videos of cops agitating? How many videos of white supremacists dresses as Antifa or themselves starting shit? How much proof do you need?

my country is in the midst of a fascist takeover and all you fools keep banging on about the left. The left isn’t doing this. There is zero logic to that statement and mounds of evidence against it. But cheetoh in charge tweets some very convenient political messaging and you all fall in line.
 






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This. Is. Not. The. Left. For the millionth freaking time. There’s how many videos of cops agitating? How many videos of white supremacists dresses as Antifa or themselves starting shit? How much proof do you need?

my country is in the midst of a fascist takeover and all you fools keep banging on about the left. The left isn’t doing this. There is zero logic to that statement and mounds of evidence against it. But cheetoh in charge tweets some very convenient political messaging and you all fall in line.
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This. Is. Not. The. Left. For the millionth freaking time. There’s how many videos of cops agitating? How many videos of white supremacists dresses as Antifa or themselves starting shit? How much proof do you need?

my country is in the midst of a fascist takeover and all you fools keep banging on about the left. The left isn’t doing this. There is zero logic to that statement and mounds of evidence against it. But cheetoh in charge tweets some very convenient political messaging and you all fall in line.
And yes there are some scary ass stupid laws being in plan.
 






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They announced a protest in the next town over from me for saturday. No big deal right? Orders have been lifted and we have a constitutional right to protest. Cue the white business owners of the area on Facebook... “oh god stay alert business owners, be prepared.” They are already agitating. They are already looking and hoping for a problem. As they prance around town in MAGA hats.
 






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Couple of things I think are positive.


If the national guard refused to deploy, that would be a pretty big symbol of change. I don’t know if it’s possible, but it would be positive. The article says there is a veteran's petition endorsing a move like this.


“ill be introducing an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act to discontinue the program that transfers military weaponry to local police departments," the Hawaii Democrat tweetedlate Sunday.

Julián Castro, the former Housing Secretary, applauded Schatz's proposal, warning that "as long as our police arm up like a combat force, they'll act like it."

President Donald Trump in 2017 rolled backObama-era limits on the 1033 Program, which authorizes the Defense Department to send military equipment and weapons to local police departments. As NBC reported at the time, "Congress created the program in 1990 during the height of the war on drugs for federal and state law enforcement agencies, and it was expanded seven years later to include all law enforcement departments."

"Since the program's inception," NBC noted, "more than $5.4 billion in equipment has flowed to police."


I think the support we are already starting to see beyond the protest, is an encouraging sign of real potential change. There is a lot that is starting to happen besides the protests.

I think it would also be interesting to be able to compare the response to the protest based on whether that police station is union or nonunion, but I doubt most of the news sources are going to do anything cool like this. Maybe an independent new source will. I don’t know though, but it would be interesting to see whether they approach the protesting differently since some of the police seem to be joining the protests and others seem to be tear gassing them for no reason.


“Yet a University of Chicago study found that between 1996 and 2015, newly unionized law enforcement agencies saw a 27% uptick in misconduct complaints — a phenomenon the researchers tied largely to protections afforded by union contracts.”
 






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weskrongden

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Couple of things I think are positive.


If the national guard refused to deploy, that would be a pretty big symbol of change. I don’t know if it’s possible, but it would be positive. The article says there is a veteran's petition endorsing a move like this.


“ill be introducing an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act to discontinue the program that transfers military weaponry to local police departments," the Hawaii Democrat tweetedlate Sunday.

Julián Castro, the former Housing Secretary, applauded Schatz's proposal, warning that "as long as our police arm up like a combat force, they'll act like it."

President Donald Trump in 2017 rolled backObama-era limits on the 1033 Program, which authorizes the Defense Department to send military equipment and weapons to local police departments. As NBC reported at the time, "Congress created the program in 1990 during the height of the war on drugs for federal and state law enforcement agencies, and it was expanded seven years later to include all law enforcement departments."

"Since the program's inception," NBC noted, "more than $5.4 billion in equipment has flowed to police."


I think the support we are already starting to see beyond the protest, is an encouraging sign of real potential change. There is a lot that is starting to happen besides the protests.

I think it would also be interesting to be able to compare the response to the protest based on whether that police station is union or nonunion, but I doubt most of the news sources are going to do anything cool like this. Maybe an independent new source will. I don’t know though, but it would be interesting to see whether they approach the protesting differently since some of the police seem to be joining the protests and others seem to be tear gassing them for no reason.


“Yet a University of Chicago study found that between 1996 and 2015, newly unionized law enforcement agencies saw a 27% uptick in misconduct complaints — a phenomenon the researchers tied largely to protections afforded by union contracts.”
That's not going to happen. Most people support deploying the military to stop these thugs.

 






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Antifa is a proxy of the Deep State. Antifa is against Trump. The Deep State is against Trump. It's really that simple.
Nailed it. The rioting is NOT coming from 'white nationalists' pretending to be leftists, as the MSM claims. Funny how the MSM mocks conspiracy theories until they find it useful to spread conspiracies themselves.
 






Frank Badfinger

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The Deep State is against Trump
But Trump is the Deep State. There is no left or right. It's all an illusion.

These riots are a pre-planned psy-op. I believe the goal is a police state and gun confiscation. Tracing apps and more big brother surveillance in the works to "protect us".

Police Use Contact Tracing And Big Tech To Identify Protesters
 






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